A few things spring to mind.
Trump lacks certain qualities which the British traditionally esteem.
For instance, he has no class, no charm, no coolness, no credibility, no compassion, no wit, no warmth, no wisdom, no subtlety, no sensitivity, no self-awareness, no humility, no honour and no grace – all qualities, funnily enough, with which his predecessor Mr. Obama was generously blessed.
So for us, the stark contrast does rather throw Trump’s limitations into embarrassingly sharp relief.
Plus, we like a laugh. And while Trump may be laughable, he has never once said anything wry, witty or even faintly amusing – not once, ever.
I don’t say that rhetorically, I mean it quite literally: not once, not ever. And that fact is particularly disturbing to the British sensibility – for us, to lack humour is almost inhuman.
But with Trump, it’s a fact. He doesn’t even seem to understand what a joke is – his idea of a joke is a crass comment, an illiterate insult, a casual act of cruelty.
Trump is a troll. And like all trolls, he is never funny and he never laughs; he only crows or jeers.
And scarily, he doesn’t just talk in crude, witless insults – he actually thinks in them. His mind is a simple bot-like algorithm of petty prejudices and knee-jerk nastiness.
There is never any under-layer of irony, complexity, nuance or depth. It’s all surface.
Some Americans might see this as refreshingly upfront.
Well, we don’t. We see it as having no inner world, no soul.
And in Britain we traditionally side with David, not Goliath. All our heroes are plucky underdogs: Robin Hood, Dick Whittington, Oliver Twist.
Trump is neither plucky, nor an underdog. He is the exact opposite of that.
He’s not even a spoiled rich-boy, or a greedy fat-cat.
He’s more a fat white slug. A Jabba the Hutt of privilege.
And worse, he is that most unforgivable of all things to the British: a bully.
That is, except when he is among bullies; then he suddenly transforms into a snivelling sidekick instead.
There are unspoken rules to this stuff – the Queensberry rules of basic decency – and he breaks them all. He punches downwards – which a gentleman should, would, could never do – and every blow he aims is below the belt. He particularly likes to kick the vulnerable or voiceless – and he kicks them when they are down.
So the fact that a significant minority – perhaps a third – of Americans look at what he does, listen to what he says, and then think ‘Yeah, he seems like my kind of guy’ is a matter of some confusion and no little distress to British people, given that:
• Americans are supposed to be nicer than us, and mostly are.
• You don’t need a particularly keen eye for detail to spot a few flaws in the man.
This last point is what especially confuses and dismays British people, and many other people too; his faults seem pretty bloody hard to miss.
After all, it’s impossible to read a single tweet, or hear him speak a sentence or two, without staring deep into the abyss. He turns being artless into an art form; he is a Picasso of pettiness; a Shakespeare of shit. His faults are fractal: even his flaws have flaws, and so on ad infinitum.
God knows there have always been stupid people in the world, and plenty of nasty people too. But rarely has stupidity been so nasty, or nastiness so stupid.
He makes Nixon look trustworthy and George W look smart.
In fact, if Frankenstein decided to make a monster assembled entirely from human flaws – he would make a Trump.
And a remorseful Doctor Frankenstein would clutch out big clumpfuls of hair and scream in anguish:
‘My God… what… have… I… created?
If being a twat was a TV show, Trump would be the boxed set.
Trump seen by a Brit
Trump seen by a Brit
Someone on Quora asked “Why do some British people not like Donald Trump?” Nate White, an articulate and witty writer from England wrote the following response:
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As many faults as he seems to have I would take a million of him over one Obama. While so many non-Americans love Obama he was a train wreck for our country. A lot of countries are realizing that socialism doesn't work. The basic system has one fatal flaw. It believes that everyone will be willing to put out the same effort for the betterment of all. They aren't. Way too many are lazy and self serving. The only ones who gain in this system are the leaders, their families, and their friends.
"A day without learning is a day lost!"
This did the rounds on Facebook recently. I think the general consensus is that Nate White does not exist and the whole thing is made up.
TheGrimReaper wrote: ↑Mon Sep 02, 2019 1:45 pmSlavedog, you do not belong on this forum as you talk too much sense.
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That's another great bit of deflection. Even though he seems to be a complete fuck-up he's one million times better than that other guy. Absolutely no reasoning put in there, just more "what-aboutism".Johnsell50 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2019 6:17 pmAs many faults as he seems to have I would take a million of him over one Obama.
While so many non-Americans love Obama he was a train wreck for our country. A lot of countries are realizing that socialism doesn't work.
What you don't seem to get is that us non-Americans don't give a fuck about your screwed-up political process. That fucking twat Obama came over here and blocked the traffic up for hours, that's about all I care about. How he was a train wreck for America I don't know, I didn't notice. Your comments on Socialism (which I'm not a fan of) just show that you have no idea what it actually means. There are some weird ideas floating around in the US, and the idea that the Democratic Party who have always had close links with the moguls of industry are socialists is just fucking retarded.
Kill all those lazy Americans who are smoking crystal meth and bumming around on welfare. All those truck-driving oxycontin pumped dumb fucks need to die. Clear their fat useless asses out and repopulate your country with decent people. Drain the swamp.The basic system has one fatal flaw. It believes that everyone will be willing to put out the same effort for the betterment of all. They aren't. Way too many are lazy and self serving. The only ones who gain in this system are the leaders, their families, and their friends.
Romantic Cambodia is dead and gone. It's with McKinley in the grave.
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For someone who doesn't care you seem to be vehement about it. And yes, I do understand what socialism is. What i believe in is helping anyone who truly needs help and ignoring those who will not help themselves because they believe they should be able to live off others work.
What really surprises me most is how many people believe that just because someone is either A, an American, and/or B, a conservative; that we either have no brains, don't know how to read, or don't have a clue about what we have read. I do not limit myself to Fox News, and I take everything I see or read with more than one grain of salt. It seems many others believe everything they see or hear on the major media outlets. That is a shame.
https://www.thebalance.com/socialism-ty ... es-3305592
From the above:
The biggest disadvantage of socialism is that it relies on the cooperative nature of humans to work. It ignores those within society who are competitive, not cooperative. Competitive people tend to seek ways to overthrow and disrupt society for their own gain. Capitalism harnesses this "Greed is good" drive. Socialism pretends it doesn't exist.
As a result, socialism doesn't reward people for being entrepreneurial. It struggles to be as innovative as a capitalistic society.
A third disadvantage is that the government has a lot of power. This works as long as it represents the wishes of the people. But government leaders can abuse this position and claim power for themselves.
What really surprises me most is how many people believe that just because someone is either A, an American, and/or B, a conservative; that we either have no brains, don't know how to read, or don't have a clue about what we have read. I do not limit myself to Fox News, and I take everything I see or read with more than one grain of salt. It seems many others believe everything they see or hear on the major media outlets. That is a shame.
https://www.thebalance.com/socialism-ty ... es-3305592
From the above:
The biggest disadvantage of socialism is that it relies on the cooperative nature of humans to work. It ignores those within society who are competitive, not cooperative. Competitive people tend to seek ways to overthrow and disrupt society for their own gain. Capitalism harnesses this "Greed is good" drive. Socialism pretends it doesn't exist.
As a result, socialism doesn't reward people for being entrepreneurial. It struggles to be as innovative as a capitalistic society.
A third disadvantage is that the government has a lot of power. This works as long as it represents the wishes of the people. But government leaders can abuse this position and claim power for themselves.
"A day without learning is a day lost!"
You seem to have no idea that socialism isn't communism and vice versa as you are talking about communism. Socialism isn't very good either but still better than plain dictatorship and a plutocracy, which is what trump and some republicans are all about. Any other republican would be more palatable. Trump isn't a republican, he's just an opportunistic bully who can play a crowd of ignorant losers.
Before the election you could be forgiven to give him the benefit of the doubt. Quite a few friends of mine supported him at the beginning. Now that he's been exposed for what he is, who could possibly root for such a clueless nepotist lying crook, racist, homophobic retard for a president ? His own police and secret services see through his bullshit. He loves dictators and hates free press that dissect all his pathetic moves. Guys like him are so despicable they do generate revolutions and hate towards all they represent, and are therefore communists's objective allies. You should support real republicans, not that guy.
Before the election you could be forgiven to give him the benefit of the doubt. Quite a few friends of mine supported him at the beginning. Now that he's been exposed for what he is, who could possibly root for such a clueless nepotist lying crook, racist, homophobic retard for a president ? His own police and secret services see through his bullshit. He loves dictators and hates free press that dissect all his pathetic moves. Guys like him are so despicable they do generate revolutions and hate towards all they represent, and are therefore communists's objective allies. You should support real republicans, not that guy.
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Not confused by the term at all:
so·cial·ism
[ˈsōSHəˌlizəm]
NOUN
a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.
synonyms:
leftism · Fabianism · syndicalism · consumer socialism · utopian socialism · welfarism · communism · Bolshevism · radicalism · militancy · progressivism · [more]
policy or practice based on the political and economic theory of socialism.
synonyms:
leftism · Fabianism · syndicalism · consumer socialism · utopian socialism · welfarism · communism · Bolshevism · radicalism · militancy · progressivism · [more]
(in Marxist theory) a transitional social state between the overthrow of capitalism and the realization of Communism.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/socialism
https://www.thefreedictionary.com/socialism
As for Trump, while I do not like his morals, I am happy with what he is doing for America. He has given us more jobs, a better economy, and the ability to produce enough oil and natural gas to become independent from any other country along with exporting to other countries. This is out of the Democrat's talking points: "Clueless nepotist lying crook, racist, homophobic retard for a president"
https://spectator.org/everyone-is-smart-except-trump/
Please read the "Green New Deal and see exactly where the Democratic Party wants to lead us. So far every one of their candidates for the 2020 primary have endorsed it. Please read it fully, along with AOC's comments about it before replying.
so·cial·ism
[ˈsōSHəˌlizəm]
NOUN
a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.
synonyms:
leftism · Fabianism · syndicalism · consumer socialism · utopian socialism · welfarism · communism · Bolshevism · radicalism · militancy · progressivism · [more]
policy or practice based on the political and economic theory of socialism.
synonyms:
leftism · Fabianism · syndicalism · consumer socialism · utopian socialism · welfarism · communism · Bolshevism · radicalism · militancy · progressivism · [more]
(in Marxist theory) a transitional social state between the overthrow of capitalism and the realization of Communism.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/socialism
https://www.thefreedictionary.com/socialism
As for Trump, while I do not like his morals, I am happy with what he is doing for America. He has given us more jobs, a better economy, and the ability to produce enough oil and natural gas to become independent from any other country along with exporting to other countries. This is out of the Democrat's talking points: "Clueless nepotist lying crook, racist, homophobic retard for a president"
https://spectator.org/everyone-is-smart-except-trump/
Please read the "Green New Deal and see exactly where the Democratic Party wants to lead us. So far every one of their candidates for the 2020 primary have endorsed it. Please read it fully, along with AOC's comments about it before replying.
"A day without learning is a day lost!"
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You sure about that?:Johnsell50 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 06, 2019 7:44 am
As for Trump, while I do not like his morals, I am happy with what he is doing for America. He has given us more jobs, a better economy.......
Trump promised to shrink the trade deficit. Instead, it exploded.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business ... 2a76dcb843
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It is called a "Work in Progress". It is very hard to turn around 70 years of bad trade deals and policies in 2 years, and American politicians have been making bad trade deals and policies with the rest of the world since the end of world war 2.
"A day without learning is a day lost!"
Johnsell, any explanation why trump is so ridiculously insecure that he threatened to sue to hide his poor grades? Was it Obama's or crooked Hilary this time too ?
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That ranks right up there with "Russia Collusion"? More talking points from the left. By the way, there is a federal law prohibiting schools from releasing records except in the case of a subpoena. What kind of lawyer doesn't know this? Oh, I know, the same kind that loses their license, or ignores lawyer client privilege, or will do anything to get less time in prison or lower fines for crimes he has committed.
I also missed your answer about the "Green New Deal"?
I also missed your answer about the "Green New Deal"?
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Surely a bit of the pot calling the kettle black don't you think.............Johnsell50 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 7:41 amThat ranks right up there with "Russia Collusion"? More talking points from the left. By the way, there is a federal law prohibiting schools from releasing records except in the case of a subpoena. What kind of lawyer doesn't know this? Oh, I know, the same kind that loses their license, or ignores lawyer client privilege, or will do anything to get less time in prison or lower fines for crimes he has committed.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/clareoconn ... 9592c3e9aa
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The real question is, was he ever taken up on his generous offer? Now, also, isn't Hillary calling for an investigation of Trump's finances kind of like someone living in a glass house throwing stones?
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