The Hong Kong Protests
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Make sure you have nothing incriminating, like democratic related content, on your phone; otherwise, you may be detained. It's hotting up now. You're a brave man. It's been three months and there are still hundreds of thousands demonstrating. There are more big demonstrations planned for the weekend, and the government have proved at least twice that they are prepared to attack even if innocent travelers are in the way.
Thousands more injured.At least 10,000 people died in Tiananmen Square massacre, secret British cable from the time alleged
Secret document suggested death toll was much higher than later reported, while claiming wounded students were bayoneted as they begged for their lives and the burnt remains of victims were 'hosed down the drains'
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I think it's fear mongering. Rule 1, don't camp in tents on the main square in town, after more than 2-3 warnings from authorities.
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Nah no democratic material on this phone, I’m good.kungfufighter wrote: ↑Mon Aug 26, 2019 12:22 pmMake sure you have nothing incriminating, like democratic related content, on your phone; otherwise, you may be detained. It's hotting up now. You're a brave man. It's been three months and there are still hundreds of thousands demonstrating. There are more big demonstrations planned for the weekend, and the government have proved at least twice that they are prepared to attack even if innocent travelers are in the way.
Thousands more injured.At least 10,000 people died in Tiananmen Square massacre, secret British cable from the time alleged
Secret document suggested death toll was much higher than later reported, while claiming wounded students were bayoneted as they begged for their lives and the burnt remains of victims were 'hosed down the drains'
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Cool. Just a lot of stuff about Brexit then.Miguelito wrote: ↑Mon Aug 26, 2019 4:07 pmNah no democratic material on this phone, I’m good.kungfufighter wrote: ↑Mon Aug 26, 2019 12:22 pmMake sure you have nothing incriminating, like democratic related content, on your phone; otherwise, you may be detained. It's hotting up now. You're a brave man. It's been three months and there are still hundreds of thousands demonstrating. There are more big demonstrations planned for the weekend, and the government have proved at least twice that they are prepared to attack even if innocent travelers are in the way.
Thousands more injured.At least 10,000 people died in Tiananmen Square massacre, secret British cable from the time alleged
Secret document suggested death toll was much higher than later reported, while claiming wounded students were bayoneted as they begged for their lives and the burnt remains of victims were 'hosed down the drains'
Up the workers!
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newnewnewbie wrote: ↑Mon Aug 26, 2019 12:58 pmI think it's fear mongering. Rule 1, don't camp in tents on the main square in town, after more than 2-3 warnings from authorities.
They ran over their own troops in APCs, so I doubt if they'd care much about Miguelito.Sir Alan added: “Students understood they were given one hour to leave the square, but after five minutes APCs attacked.
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Democracy for all Chinky Chonks !!!Miguelito wrote: ↑Mon Aug 26, 2019 4:07 pmNah no democratic material on this phone, I’m good.kungfufighter wrote: ↑Mon Aug 26, 2019 12:22 pmMake sure you have nothing incriminating, like democratic related content, on your phone; otherwise, you may be detained. It's hotting up now. You're a brave man. It's been three months and there are still hundreds of thousands demonstrating. There are more big demonstrations planned for the weekend, and the government have proved at least twice that they are prepared to attack even if innocent travelers are in the way.
Thousands more injured.At least 10,000 people died in Tiananmen Square massacre, secret British cable from the time alleged
Secret document suggested death toll was much higher than later reported, while claiming wounded students were bayoneted as they begged for their lives and the burnt remains of victims were 'hosed down the drains'
(I am sure that you will be fine if they read that upon your entry to our former colony )
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It's probably sensible to post the whole article the 10,000 figure was from to remind us what the Hong Kongers are up against.
At least 10,000 people died in Tiananmen Square massacre, secret British cable from the time alleged
Secret document suggested death toll was much higher than later reported, while claiming wounded students were bayoneted as they begged for their lives and the burnt remains of victims were 'hosed down the drains'
Adam Lusher
Saturday 23 December 2017 16:42
The Independent
Before the massacre hundreds of thousands gathered in Tiananmen Square to demand democratic reform from China's Communist government
The death toll from the 1989 Tiananmen Square massacre was at least 10,000 people, killed by a Chinese army unit whose troops were likened to “primitives”, a secret British diplomatic cable alleged.
The newly declassified document, written little more than 24 hours after the massacre, gives a much higher death toll than the most commonly used estimates which only go up to about 3,000.
It also provides horrific detail of the massacre, alleging that wounded female students were bayoneted as they begged for their lives, human remains were “hosed down the drains”, and a mother was shot as she tried to go to the aid of her injured three-year-old daughter.
Written on 5 June 1989 by Sir Alan Donald, the then-British ambassador to China, the hitherto secret cable has now been placed in the UK National Archives at Kew, where it was found by the news website HK01.
The ambassador said his account of the massacre of the night of 3-4 June was based on information from a source who had spoken to a “good friend” in China’s State Council, effectively its ruling cabinet.
The State Council member, Sir Alan said, “has previously proved reliable and was careful to separate fact from speculation and rumour”.
In unflinching detail, Sir Alan told London that the “atrocities” against thousands of pro-democracy protesters in and around Beijing’s Tiananmen Square had been coordinated by the 27 Army of Shanxi Province, whose troops he described as “60 per cent illiterate and called primitives”.
Sir Alan said previous waves of troops had gone in unarmed to disperse the protesters, many of whom were students.
Then, Sir Alan wrote, “The 27 Army APCs [armoured personnel carriers] opened fire on the crowd before running over them. APCs ran over troops and civilians at 65kph [40 miles per hour].”
Sir Alan added: “Students understood they were given one hour to leave square, but after five minutes APCs attacked.
“Students linked arms but were mown down. APCs then ran over the bodies time and time again to make, quote ‘pie’ unquote, and remains collected by bulldozer.
“Remains incinerated and then hosed down drains.”
Sir Alan’s cable stated that the violent repression of the Tiananmen Square protests occurred after some members of China’s State Council had come to consider that civil war was imminent.
Sir Alan reported as speculation that Deng Xiaoping’s Communist government chose the 27 Army for the operation because its troops were “the most reliable and obedient”.
He reported that from what he had been told, 27 Army troops had used dum-dum bullets and “snipers shot many civilians on balconies, street sweepers etc for target practice”.
“27 Army ordered to spare no one,” he wrote. “Wounded girl students begged for their lives but were bayoneted.
“A three-year-old girl was injured, but her mother was shot as she went to her aid, as were six others.”
The cable also alleges that the massacre continued even after the first wave of killings.
Sir Alan wrote: “1,000 survivors were told they could escape but were then mown down by specially prepared MG [machine gun] positions.
“Army ambulances who attempted to give aid were shot up, as was a Sino-Japanese hospital ambulance. With medical crew dead, wounded driver attempted to ram attackers but was blown to pieces by anti-tank weapon.”
In another incident, the cable said, the troops even shot one of their own officers.
Sir Alan wrote: “27 Army officer shot dead by own troops, apparently because he faltered. Troops explained they would be shot if they hadn’t shot the officer.”
The final sentence of Sir Alan’s cable reads: “Minimum estimate of civilian dead 10,000.”
This estimate is way above any figures issued by the Chinese government, which has numbered the civilian dead at between 200 and 300.
There has never been an undisputed figure for the death toll, but on early on the morning of 4 June, the Chinese Red Cross estimated that 2,700 people had been killed.
This is still way below the figure suggested by Sir Alan, but most reports of the massacre now go with the Red Cross number or something close to it.
In 2014, however, it was reported that a confidential US government file quoted a Chinese military source as saying the Communist regime’s own internal assessment believed 10,454 people had been killed – a figure that would fit Sir Alan’s initial estimate.
The Chinese government has always characterised the response to the Tiananmen Square protests as legitimate defence against a counter-revolutionary riot or rebellion.
On the night of 3 June, United Press International reported that a statement was repeatedly broadcast on Chinese television, claiming: “Tonight a serious counter-revolutionary rebellion took place. Thugs frenziedly attacked People’s Liberation Army troops, seizing weapons, erecting barricades, beating soldiers and officers in an attempt to overthrow the government of the People’s Republic of China.
“For many days, the People’s Liberation Army has exercised restraint and now must resolutely counteract the rebellion.
“All those who refuse to listen to reason must take full responsibility for their actions and their consequences.”
At least 10,000 people died in Tiananmen Square massacre, secret British cable from the time alleged
Secret document suggested death toll was much higher than later reported, while claiming wounded students were bayoneted as they begged for their lives and the burnt remains of victims were 'hosed down the drains'
Adam Lusher
Saturday 23 December 2017 16:42
The Independent
Before the massacre hundreds of thousands gathered in Tiananmen Square to demand democratic reform from China's Communist government
The death toll from the 1989 Tiananmen Square massacre was at least 10,000 people, killed by a Chinese army unit whose troops were likened to “primitives”, a secret British diplomatic cable alleged.
The newly declassified document, written little more than 24 hours after the massacre, gives a much higher death toll than the most commonly used estimates which only go up to about 3,000.
It also provides horrific detail of the massacre, alleging that wounded female students were bayoneted as they begged for their lives, human remains were “hosed down the drains”, and a mother was shot as she tried to go to the aid of her injured three-year-old daughter.
Written on 5 June 1989 by Sir Alan Donald, the then-British ambassador to China, the hitherto secret cable has now been placed in the UK National Archives at Kew, where it was found by the news website HK01.
The ambassador said his account of the massacre of the night of 3-4 June was based on information from a source who had spoken to a “good friend” in China’s State Council, effectively its ruling cabinet.
The State Council member, Sir Alan said, “has previously proved reliable and was careful to separate fact from speculation and rumour”.
In unflinching detail, Sir Alan told London that the “atrocities” against thousands of pro-democracy protesters in and around Beijing’s Tiananmen Square had been coordinated by the 27 Army of Shanxi Province, whose troops he described as “60 per cent illiterate and called primitives”.
Sir Alan said previous waves of troops had gone in unarmed to disperse the protesters, many of whom were students.
Then, Sir Alan wrote, “The 27 Army APCs [armoured personnel carriers] opened fire on the crowd before running over them. APCs ran over troops and civilians at 65kph [40 miles per hour].”
Sir Alan added: “Students understood they were given one hour to leave square, but after five minutes APCs attacked.
“Students linked arms but were mown down. APCs then ran over the bodies time and time again to make, quote ‘pie’ unquote, and remains collected by bulldozer.
“Remains incinerated and then hosed down drains.”
Sir Alan’s cable stated that the violent repression of the Tiananmen Square protests occurred after some members of China’s State Council had come to consider that civil war was imminent.
Sir Alan reported as speculation that Deng Xiaoping’s Communist government chose the 27 Army for the operation because its troops were “the most reliable and obedient”.
He reported that from what he had been told, 27 Army troops had used dum-dum bullets and “snipers shot many civilians on balconies, street sweepers etc for target practice”.
“27 Army ordered to spare no one,” he wrote. “Wounded girl students begged for their lives but were bayoneted.
“A three-year-old girl was injured, but her mother was shot as she went to her aid, as were six others.”
The cable also alleges that the massacre continued even after the first wave of killings.
Sir Alan wrote: “1,000 survivors were told they could escape but were then mown down by specially prepared MG [machine gun] positions.
“Army ambulances who attempted to give aid were shot up, as was a Sino-Japanese hospital ambulance. With medical crew dead, wounded driver attempted to ram attackers but was blown to pieces by anti-tank weapon.”
In another incident, the cable said, the troops even shot one of their own officers.
Sir Alan wrote: “27 Army officer shot dead by own troops, apparently because he faltered. Troops explained they would be shot if they hadn’t shot the officer.”
The final sentence of Sir Alan’s cable reads: “Minimum estimate of civilian dead 10,000.”
This estimate is way above any figures issued by the Chinese government, which has numbered the civilian dead at between 200 and 300.
There has never been an undisputed figure for the death toll, but on early on the morning of 4 June, the Chinese Red Cross estimated that 2,700 people had been killed.
This is still way below the figure suggested by Sir Alan, but most reports of the massacre now go with the Red Cross number or something close to it.
In 2014, however, it was reported that a confidential US government file quoted a Chinese military source as saying the Communist regime’s own internal assessment believed 10,454 people had been killed – a figure that would fit Sir Alan’s initial estimate.
The Chinese government has always characterised the response to the Tiananmen Square protests as legitimate defence against a counter-revolutionary riot or rebellion.
On the night of 3 June, United Press International reported that a statement was repeatedly broadcast on Chinese television, claiming: “Tonight a serious counter-revolutionary rebellion took place. Thugs frenziedly attacked People’s Liberation Army troops, seizing weapons, erecting barricades, beating soldiers and officers in an attempt to overthrow the government of the People’s Republic of China.
“For many days, the People’s Liberation Army has exercised restraint and now must resolutely counteract the rebellion.
“All those who refuse to listen to reason must take full responsibility for their actions and their consequences.”
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I do hope people are suitably impressed that it was our leaders from the democratic west that sold out their own workers to make China what it is today even after they knew about the massacre at Tienanmen.
Also, I do hope that they have a better game plan other than to get rich quick.
Cue Trump...
Also, I do hope that they have a better game plan other than to get rich quick.
Cue Trump...
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Chinese Military Vehicles Just Entered Hong Kong. Beijing Says There’s Nothing to Worry About.
10.000 elite troops and a war ship. Absolutely nothing to worry about.
Keep calm and carry on.
10.000 elite troops and a war ship. Absolutely nothing to worry about.
Keep calm and carry on.
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China is moving in the wrong direction and is about to suffer the consequences for not following a simple moral premise: There is no economic freedom without political freedom.
She will take Hong Kong and her wealth, and murder what made Hong Kong wealthy and desirable, the creative mind.
She will take Hong Kong and her wealth, and murder what made Hong Kong wealthy and desirable, the creative mind.
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