Whereas licking Corbyn's arse is considered real politics ?kungfufighter wrote: ↑Wed Dec 18, 2019 4:02 amI'm not sure licking envelopes is considered real work
+ you have zero sense of humour.
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People are sick of identity politics - no one cares what someone ''identifies'' as.Dallow Spicer wrote: ↑Tue Dec 17, 2019 7:21 pmInteresting side note: of the new intake of Tory MPs, no fewer than 24 identify as LGBT and at least one is an openly gay muslim, the first know gay muslim parliamentarian in the world.
And over 40% of the new breed of Tory MPs went to comprehensive schools. They also include a forming striking miner and a railway worker shop steward.
Quite extraordinary.
In an equal society it doesn't matter. What are they going to do as an MP?
Unless of course it's the only "interesting" thing about the person, which is true with the majority of T and Q's. In fact, I'd go as far as to say that they don't want to be equal, they want to be special.
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Actually, I withdraw that apology as he is doing what I posted above along with dumping the Dec 31 2020 extension provision in the WAB. Which is technically illegal as he's changing what has been agreed with the EU. Not that they seem to mind, as is usual with the non-stick pig-queen.kungfufighter wrote: ↑Tue Dec 17, 2019 5:06 pmApologies. Corrected as you were writing.Dallow Spicer wrote: ↑Tue Dec 17, 2019 5:01 pmOnce again, you get basic facts wrong. Johnson is using his majority to enshrine in law the 31 December 2020 leave without a deal if no trade deal is reached. It has nothing to do with 31 January.kungfufighter wrote: ↑Tue Dec 17, 2019 4:36 pmAnyhoo, back to Brexit.
Johnson in his infinite wisdom is going to use his majority to try to pass a law preventing MPs extending the Jan 31 leave date.
With everyone in his party supporting his Oven-ready deal, so he kept saying, what's his exact point do you think?
The markets don't seem to think the way you do. Sterling's down on the news.And, of course, this is Johnson gesturing. He has such a huge majority that he can easily change his mind during 2020.
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Haha. His new private secretary is from a traditionally Labour seat- Copeland, up north. She is at least white though.Hot_Pink_Urinal_Mint wrote: ↑Wed Dec 18, 2019 9:09 amPeople are sick of identity politics - no one cares what someone ''identifies'' as.Dallow Spicer wrote: ↑Tue Dec 17, 2019 7:21 pmInteresting side note: of the new intake of Tory MPs, no fewer than 24 identify as LGBT and at least one is an openly gay muslim, the first know gay muslim parliamentarian in the world.
And over 40% of the new breed of Tory MPs went to comprehensive schools. They also include a forming striking miner and a railway worker shop steward.
Quite extraordinary.
In an equal society it doesn't matter. What are they going to do as an MP?
Unless of course it's the only "interesting" thing about the person, which is true with the majority of T and Q's. In fact, I'd go as far as to say that they don't want to be equal, they want to be special.
Also,
Things can only get better. But not foxhunting this time.
Johnson has banned ministers from attending next month's Davos summit - the annual gathering of the global elite. Govt source: 'Our focus is on delivering for the people, not champagne with billionaires
The lumpen proles will all suck it up of course, as has been proven by the election result.
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The three top reasons why Labour lost the election.
No 1. Fear
No 2. Fear
No 3. Fear.
Like a dog offered its freedom by animal rights terrorists from an animal experimentation lab , when shown the open doorway and bright light of freedom, they all went jelly legged and bottled it.
One of the most ironic things about the election, was that the people who invented the #projectfear tag, were the very ones consciously running a real project fear campaign against Corbyn.
No 1. Fear
No 2. Fear
No 3. Fear.
Like a dog offered its freedom by animal rights terrorists from an animal experimentation lab , when shown the open doorway and bright light of freedom, they all went jelly legged and bottled it.
One of the most ironic things about the election, was that the people who invented the #projectfear tag, were the very ones consciously running a real project fear campaign against Corbyn.
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For the uninitiated “comprehensive schools” basically means a bog standard state school. (As do around 90% of the population)Dallow Spicer wrote: ↑Tue Dec 17, 2019 7:21 pmInteresting side note: of the new intake of Tory MPs, no fewer than 24 identify as LGBT and at least one is an openly gay muslim, the first know gay muslim parliamentarian in the world.
And over 40% of the new breed of Tory MPs went to comprehensive schools. They also include a forming striking miner and a railway worker shop steward.
Quite extraordinary.
(Not me. I went to Oxbridge but wasted it all. Yeah!)
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As opposed to sucking on the Tory-teats of Dallow's non-stick Pig-Queen.Playboy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 18, 2019 7:27 amWhereas licking Corbyn's arse is considered real politics ?kungfufighter wrote: ↑Wed Dec 18, 2019 4:02 amI'm not sure licking envelopes is considered real work
+ you have zero sense of humour.
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This is the real pig with his snout in the trough
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She's not the one to worry about. Elliot Colburn is....kungfufighter wrote: ↑Wed Dec 18, 2019 10:36 amHaha. His new private secretary is from a traditionally Labour seat- Copeland, up north. She is at least white though.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/meet ... tent=22278Colburn, who previously worked for the NHS and attended a state school in Sutton, south London, will also “100% be fighting for trans rights” and wants to reform the Gender Recognition Act.
There is nothing conservative about wanting to overturn current sex-based protections and allowing men to self-identify themselves into women's spaces including prisons etc. This reform that he and many others are proposing is inherently homophobic and misogynistic.
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Read it and weep.slavedog wrote: ↑Wed Dec 18, 2019 2:07 pmReally. Quite the drama queen.kungfufighter wrote: ↑Wed Dec 18, 2019 4:22 amHear, hear, Sir. My thoughts have turned the same way.EIKROY wrote: ↑Wed Dec 18, 2019 3:03 amBoris Johnson is now removing his pre-election commitment to maintaining worker's rights from his Brexit bill.
It's what Northern working class ex Labour Leavers were demanding apparently.
The farce turns to tragedy.
They deserve every single thing coming their way.
People did everything to warn them and protect them, instead, the likes of JC were treated with contempt and the judged called enemies of the people, All they have got left to say now is " I told you so "
Merry Christmas,
Merry Christmas - a best-wishes that has more pathos attached to it this year than any other I can personally remember. Including when Thatcher was pm.
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Yours sincerely, Slavedog. Secretary of Money Burning, The Bullingdon Club, Phnom Penh, Cambodia.slavedog wrote: ↑Wed Dec 18, 2019 7:32 pmI haven't anything to weep about. And I never will. Why? Because I don't look to the state to provide my happiness. If you're not happy with your life, make some changes to rectify that. Sitting around waiting for the government to improve it for you is for losers.
Careful Slavedog, your swimming trunks have ridden up and you're showing your bollocks, again: as proud as you are, just for once, think of the little children.
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My mate's old boss from the movie industry, no, not that one, decided he wanted to be a she. So he started dressing like a women and using the female toilets at work. He wasn't into men though: he identified himself as being a lesbian.Hot_Pink_Urinal_Mint wrote: ↑Wed Dec 18, 2019 2:43 pmShe's not the one to worry about. Elliot Colburn is....kungfufighter wrote: ↑Wed Dec 18, 2019 10:36 amHaha. His new private secretary is from a traditionally Labour seat- Copeland, up north. She is at least white though.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/meet ... tent=22278Colburn, who previously worked for the NHS and attended a state school in Sutton, south London, will also “100% be fighting for trans rights” and wants to reform the Gender Recognition Act.
There is nothing conservative about wanting to overturn current sex-based protections and allowing men to self-identify themselves into women's spaces including prisons etc. This reform that he and many others are proposing is inherently homophobic and misogynistic.
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Yes, he's a Lesbian now. The reality is he is a crossdresser or has autogynephilia, which means he's aroused by the thought of himself as a woman. Under the new Stonewall definition, he is a trans woman and TWAW (Trans women are women.)kungfufighter wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2019 1:47 amMy mate's old boss from the movie industry, no, not that one, decided he wanted to be a she. So he started dressing like a women and using the female toilets at work. He wasn't into men though: he identified himself as being a lesbian.Hot_Pink_Urinal_Mint wrote: ↑Wed Dec 18, 2019 2:43 pmShe's not the one to worry about. Elliot Colburn is....kungfufighter wrote: ↑Wed Dec 18, 2019 10:36 amHaha. His new private secretary is from a traditionally Labour seat- Copeland, up north. She is at least white though.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/meet ... tent=22278Colburn, who previously worked for the NHS and attended a state school in Sutton, south London, will also “100% be fighting for trans rights” and wants to reform the Gender Recognition Act.
There is nothing conservative about wanting to overturn current sex-based protections and allowing men to self-identify themselves into women's spaces including prisons etc. This reform that he and many others are proposing is inherently homophobic and misogynistic.
This is why the new GRA is homophobic. Young lesbians especially, are being told they are transphobic if they won't accept "female dick."
What's starting to happen in all western prisons is that sex offenders are self-identifying as women and are being moved into women's prisons and then raping and assaulting women. These are not isolated cases but they are not being reported as it doesn't fit the narrative.
Whilst I have some sympathy for the tiny number of people whom are truly suffering from gender dysphoria, this reform will radically change society and result in the loss of sex based (biological sex) protections for women.
If you're interested, google the Johnathan (Jessica)Yaniv Wax my balls saga in Canada. It's an incredibly disturbing tale of how women were legally forced to wax men's (MtF) balls.
Just to clarify, if Fred West says he's a woman, he will be transferred to a women's prison.
There is an increasing number of Lesbians and Gay men who want to "drop the T.""
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As the Socialist Party has consistently argued, the working-class vote for Brexit was a cry of rage against everything they had suffered in a decade of austerity. Had Corbyn, as we did, taken a different position in the EU referendum the right-wing Tory nationalists would not have had the space to dominate the Brexit campaign in the way they did.
He should have argued in 2016 for a vote for Brexit on the grounds of opposing the EU bosses' club - with its pro-privatisation and anti-working class laws, standing instead for a new collaboration of the peoples of Europe on a socialist basis.
Even after this mistake, the 2017 snap election showed how promising to respect the EU referendum, and negotiate a Brexit in workers' interests, could win working-class Brexit voters. More than a million people who had previously voted Ukip voted Labour in that election.
This time, however, Corbyn's neutrality, combined with months of seeming to collaborate in parliament with pro-capitalist Remainers - Jo Swinson, Ken Clarke, and co - allowed Johnson to claim he was the only candidate who could "get Brexit done".
A considerable number of Brexit-voting workers and some Remain voters who were fed up of the Brexit paralysis and just wanted it 'sorted', lent their vote to Johnson, often holding their noses to do so. They will be sorely disappointed.
The capitalist class, the majority of whom want to remain as closely aligned to the EU as possible, are hoping against hope that - having won a clear majority - Johnson can now be pressured into negotiating a final deal in their interests.
There are more than 130 Remain Tory backbenchers who can fight for that position. Johnson may do what they want, which will almost certainly mean extending the transition period beyond the end of next year. That would reopen the splits in the Tory party, and shatter the lie that Johnson will 'get Brexit done'.
However Johnson plays it, his Brexit deal is a vicious pro-big business deal which further undermines workers' rights. Against the background of growing economic crisis, any illusions that Johnson stands 'for the people' will be destroyed by the government's actions.
In the coming turmoil there will be a burning need for a political vehicle to represent the working class: a mass workers' party. Labour under Corbyn hasn't become such a party, rather it was at best 'two parties in one': a potential workers' party around Corbyn and a capitalist Blairite party. Corbyn supporters have to urgently learn the lessons of this defeat.
It was not only on Brexit that concessions to the Blairites undermined Corbyn's message. During this election campaign there was a policy of not attacking the record of previous Labour governments. This allowed, for example, Johnson to claim Labour were responsible for much of the privatisation in the NHS. Corbyn - instead of attacking the Blairites' record on PFI and pointing out he voted against it - allowed himself to be dirtied by New Labour's record.
Across the country, Labour councils under Corbyn have continued implementing austerity, on the spurious grounds that they have 'no choice'. After 40 years of governments - Tory and New Labour - defending the interests of the capitalist elite, the majority are bound to be cynical about claims of being anti-austerity.
Unite union library workers on strike in Bradford, photo Iain Dalton
Unite union library workers on strike in Bradford, photo Iain Dalton (Click to enlarge)
If even one or two Labour councils, supported by Corbyn and McDonnell, had refused to carry out cuts to jobs and public services and started mass council house building, it would have done more to convince workers of Labour's anti-austerity credentials than a thousand warm words.
Instead, in the West Midlands alone, 20,000 local government workers were made redundant over the last decade, mainly by Labour councils.
He should have argued in 2016 for a vote for Brexit on the grounds of opposing the EU bosses' club - with its pro-privatisation and anti-working class laws, standing instead for a new collaboration of the peoples of Europe on a socialist basis.
Even after this mistake, the 2017 snap election showed how promising to respect the EU referendum, and negotiate a Brexit in workers' interests, could win working-class Brexit voters. More than a million people who had previously voted Ukip voted Labour in that election.
This time, however, Corbyn's neutrality, combined with months of seeming to collaborate in parliament with pro-capitalist Remainers - Jo Swinson, Ken Clarke, and co - allowed Johnson to claim he was the only candidate who could "get Brexit done".
A considerable number of Brexit-voting workers and some Remain voters who were fed up of the Brexit paralysis and just wanted it 'sorted', lent their vote to Johnson, often holding their noses to do so. They will be sorely disappointed.
The capitalist class, the majority of whom want to remain as closely aligned to the EU as possible, are hoping against hope that - having won a clear majority - Johnson can now be pressured into negotiating a final deal in their interests.
There are more than 130 Remain Tory backbenchers who can fight for that position. Johnson may do what they want, which will almost certainly mean extending the transition period beyond the end of next year. That would reopen the splits in the Tory party, and shatter the lie that Johnson will 'get Brexit done'.
However Johnson plays it, his Brexit deal is a vicious pro-big business deal which further undermines workers' rights. Against the background of growing economic crisis, any illusions that Johnson stands 'for the people' will be destroyed by the government's actions.
In the coming turmoil there will be a burning need for a political vehicle to represent the working class: a mass workers' party. Labour under Corbyn hasn't become such a party, rather it was at best 'two parties in one': a potential workers' party around Corbyn and a capitalist Blairite party. Corbyn supporters have to urgently learn the lessons of this defeat.
It was not only on Brexit that concessions to the Blairites undermined Corbyn's message. During this election campaign there was a policy of not attacking the record of previous Labour governments. This allowed, for example, Johnson to claim Labour were responsible for much of the privatisation in the NHS. Corbyn - instead of attacking the Blairites' record on PFI and pointing out he voted against it - allowed himself to be dirtied by New Labour's record.
Across the country, Labour councils under Corbyn have continued implementing austerity, on the spurious grounds that they have 'no choice'. After 40 years of governments - Tory and New Labour - defending the interests of the capitalist elite, the majority are bound to be cynical about claims of being anti-austerity.
Unite union library workers on strike in Bradford, photo Iain Dalton
Unite union library workers on strike in Bradford, photo Iain Dalton (Click to enlarge)
If even one or two Labour councils, supported by Corbyn and McDonnell, had refused to carry out cuts to jobs and public services and started mass council house building, it would have done more to convince workers of Labour's anti-austerity credentials than a thousand warm words.
Instead, in the West Midlands alone, 20,000 local government workers were made redundant over the last decade, mainly by Labour councils.
Up the workers!
^^ Googke tells me this is your citation;
: https://www.socialistparty.org.uk/artic ... ry-attacks
It's no good saying they didn't teach you not including references is called plagiarism at state school because Dallow Spicer knows how to do it.
: https://www.socialistparty.org.uk/artic ... ry-attacks
It's no good saying they didn't teach you not including references is called plagiarism at state school because Dallow Spicer knows how to do it.
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