Link?Hot_Pink_Urinal_Mint wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2019 4:40 pm
Clearly you haven't read the primary source - the transcript.
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https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/u ... 9.2019.pdfkungfufighter wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2019 9:19 pmLink?Hot_Pink_Urinal_Mint wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2019 4:40 pm
Clearly you haven't read the primary source - the transcript.
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Oh, the memo. That's not a verbatim transcript. Nothing about turning over their servers in that document.Hot_Pink_Urinal_Mint wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2019 9:35 pmhttps://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/u ... 9.2019.pdfkungfufighter wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2019 9:19 pmLink?Hot_Pink_Urinal_Mint wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2019 4:40 pm
Clearly you haven't read the primary source - the transcript.
The real transcript is securely locked up on an encrypted state secrets server specifically reserved for national security threats. For some strange reason.
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Firstly that is not the transcript. That is the WH’s summary of the transcript. Secondly, even the WH summary contains enough to show him clearly asking for the assistance on getting information on Biden, something both he and Giuliani have both said happened.Hot_Pink_Urinal_Mint wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2019 4:40 pmClearly you haven't read the primary source - the transcript.Dallow Spicer wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2019 8:19 pmHot_Pink_Urinal_Mint wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2019 5:42 pmSo, have I got this right?
The Democrats want to impeach a president for trying to expose a crime, and then elect the person who did the crime.
Nope. Firstly the Ukrainians have said there is nothing for the Bidens to answer for.
Secondly, Trump and Giuliani have openly admitted asking Ukraine to investigate a political opponent likely to be his opponent in 2020.
It quite literally doesn’t get any more clear than that. What’s telling though is that neither thinks they have done wrong, which goes to show how out of their depth they are.
It’s almost like you people are so invested in this guy you can’t see what is right in front of you on a piece of paper.
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It's almost like you people are so against this guy you can't see what is right in front of you on a piece of paper. He's trying to "drain the swamp."Dallow Spicer wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2019 1:13 pmFirstly that is not the transcript. That is the WH’s summary of the transcript. Secondly, even the WH summary contains enough to show him clearly asking for the assistance on getting information on Biden, something both he and Giuliani have both said happened.Hot_Pink_Urinal_Mint wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2019 4:40 pmClearly you haven't read the primary source - the transcript.Dallow Spicer wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2019 8:19 pmHot_Pink_Urinal_Mint wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2019 5:42 pmSo, have I got this right?
The Democrats want to impeach a president for trying to expose a crime, and then elect the person who did the crime.
Nope. Firstly the Ukrainians have said there is nothing for the Bidens to answer for.
Secondly, Trump and Giuliani have openly admitted asking Ukraine to investigate a political opponent likely to be his opponent in 2020.
It quite literally doesn’t get any more clear than that. What’s telling though is that neither thinks they have done wrong, which goes to show how out of their depth they are.
It’s almost like you people are so invested in this guy you can’t see what is right in front of you on a piece of paper.
Ok. No acknowledgement that he clearly is asking the leader of a foreign government for help getting information on a potential presidential candidate. Fair enough.
Drain the swamp. Lock her up. The old vague refrains rolled out when you people have no logical argument.
Drain the swamp. Lock her up. The old vague refrains rolled out when you people have no logical argument.
The good thing about this is, even some republicans and some fox news anchors have had enough with trump's lies and obstruction and the tide is starting to turn there as well.
Hot pink, do yourself a favour and try to think for yourself instead of repeating meaningless trump slogans.
Hot pink, do yourself a favour and try to think for yourself instead of repeating meaningless trump slogans.
Trump: using foreign powers to drain the swamp of someone who left the swamp three years ago.
Forget impeachment. The real rationale for getting rid of Trump is his mental decline in recent months. It’s almost painful to watch.
Forget impeachment. The real rationale for getting rid of Trump is his mental decline in recent months. It’s almost painful to watch.
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It's strange that ''ýou people'' are dismissing the transcript and endorsing the whistleblower's account when he/she admitted to not actually hearing the call.
Face it, Biden won't be a potential candidate for much longer.
Too many people have already seen him openly bragging about getting the Ukrainian Prosecutor fired at a C.F.R event.
(strange that I can't embed it) (1.04)
Plus, it's all starting to come out re Germany, Syria and the pipeline, and 5 eyes.
Try as they might, ironically the Trump Administration may end up being the most transparent and least corrupt for a long time...
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/dem ... spin-cycleBuried in a recent CNN article noted by the Daily Wire's Ashe Schow, "The whistleblower didn't have direct knowledge of the communications," adding "Instead, the whistleblower's concerns came in part from learning information that was not obtained during the course of their work."
Face it, Biden won't be a potential candidate for much longer.
Too many people have already seen him openly bragging about getting the Ukrainian Prosecutor fired at a C.F.R event.
(strange that I can't embed it) (1.04)
Plus, it's all starting to come out re Germany, Syria and the pipeline, and 5 eyes.
Try as they might, ironically the Trump Administration may end up being the most transparent and least corrupt for a long time...
Nobody is dismissing the memo you daft bint. The memo is prima facie evidence of what he is likely to be charged with.
What’s fascinating is that he and you can’t see it.
What’s fascinating is that he and you can’t see it.
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We'll have to agree to disagree that what he said constitutes 2020 Election interference. I'm okay with disagreeing.Dallow Spicer wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2019 4:20 pmNobody is dismissing the memo you daft bint. The memo is prima facie evidence of what he is likely to be charged with.
What’s fascinating is that he and you can’t see it.
Fox News is pulling away because this is what Lachlan Murdoch's (Fox) advisors have suggested. Tucker Carlson will probably be the first to go, which is a shame and although I don't watch Fox, I do think he's a good guy.logos wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2019 2:10 pmThe good thing about this is, even some republicans and some fox news anchors have had enough with trump's lies and obstruction and the tide is starting to turn there as well.
Hot pink, do yourself a favour and try to think for yourself instead of repeating meaningless trump slogans.
It's also a bit cheeky to suggest that I 'try to think for myself' when I was the person who posted the transcript and usually post links that support my point of view...
For the record, I'd like to support Tulsi Gabbard in 2020, even though she's for open borders... or Trump with Paul Rand as VP.
That's an intriguing last like HPUM. As you saying that a straight context between Tulsi Gabbard and Trump, you would vote Gabbard?
If so, why?
Follow up question: What are the chances, do you think, that Trump doesnt actually stand in 2020? He seems shaky to me, and despite what they are saying in public, it's seeming increasingly likely to me that the GOP hierarchy is seeing him as an electoral liability.
I would not be surprised to learn that key advisors are talking to him about making a dignified exit, wrapped up in 'I've done a great job' messaging. The only possible thing stopping him, in my view, is the likelihood he could face various criminal charges once out of office.
I almost feel sorry for him. He is not looking or sounding well at the moment, either physically or mentally.
If so, why?
Follow up question: What are the chances, do you think, that Trump doesnt actually stand in 2020? He seems shaky to me, and despite what they are saying in public, it's seeming increasingly likely to me that the GOP hierarchy is seeing him as an electoral liability.
I would not be surprised to learn that key advisors are talking to him about making a dignified exit, wrapped up in 'I've done a great job' messaging. The only possible thing stopping him, in my view, is the likelihood he could face various criminal charges once out of office.
I almost feel sorry for him. He is not looking or sounding well at the moment, either physically or mentally.
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I'll bet you $10 that:logos wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2019 2:10 pmThe good thing about this is, even some republicans and some fox news anchors have had enough with trump's lies and obstruction and the tide is starting to turn there as well.
Hot pink, do yourself a favour and try to think for yourself instead of repeating meaningless trump slogans.
1. Trump gets re-elected
2. Boris doesn't resign.
ירי ילדים והפצצת אזרחים דורש אומץ, כמו גם הטרדה מינית של עובדי ההוראה.
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Dallow Spicer wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 6:24 pmThat's an intriguing last like HPUM. As you saying that a straight context between Tulsi Gabbard and Trump, you would vote Gabbard?
If so, why?
Follow up question: What are the chances, do you think, that Trump doesnt actually stand in 2020? He seems shaky to me, and despite what they are saying in public, it's seeming increasingly likely to me that the GOP hierarchy is seeing him as an electoral liability.
I would not be surprised to learn that key advisors are talking to him about making a dignified exit, wrapped up in 'I've done a great job' messaging. The only possible thing stopping him, in my view, is the likelihood he could face various criminal charges once out of office.
I almost feel sorry for him. He is not looking or sounding well at the moment, either physically or mentally.
In short:
Yes, to Gabbard vs Trump.
Leaving aside the fact that she's married to a Kiwi, I think she's campaigning on a platform similar to Trump's 2016 - no more unnecessary wars and ending corruption. She's also a patriot, which I like.
Although it's been fun watching global Trump Derangement Syndrome it's not good for the country - time to focus on domestic issues. It's alarming to see the speed of the US's decline. I also think she could heal some of the divisions as many Trump supporters, and sane democrats like her. In fact, she's had a lot of air-time on Fox.
In my view, she's the only one who can beat Trump fairly, but at the end of the day it's the DNC that ultimately decides the candidate and it won't be her.
Of course he's a liability to the Republicans, he's costing the intertwined criminal cabal from both parties money but I don't think the world is ready for Mick and his magic underwear.
Trump not standing in 2020? Only if he loses the support of his base. I do think there's one proposed bill re immigration that would seriously damage him but it's not being discussed yet. Maybe Fox will use this but let's face it, he's been great for MSM ratings on both sides.
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