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So the new Dear Leader of Scandic Noir is going to have to change a vowel in all these words? I'd doubt she even knows half of the ones we got up our sleeves.
So the new Dear Leader of Scandic Noir is going to have to change a vowel in all these words? I'd doubt she even knows half of the ones we got up our sleeves.
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What has Trump said or done that makes you believe that he "doesn't believe in science"?chubacca wrote: ↑Wed Mar 11, 2020 6:18 am^^ the reason for this is that the CDC haven't been able to get the kits out as there was a test kit manufacturing issue. The other issue is that in the US - therea re only 12 labs in just 5 states that have the ability to do the test! So a mixuture of complete ineptness, unclear policy, chronic underfunding and no foresight! But, if you elect a person who doesn't believe in science, that's what you get!
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I was hoping the naga-bump was some weird way Chinese people greet each other in the Naga cashino. But no, it was just Playboy being extremely offensive again.
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What hasn't he done, more likeHarold wrote: ↑Wed Mar 11, 2020 6:32 pmWhat has Trump said or done that makes you believe that he "doesn't believe in science"?chubacca wrote: ↑Wed Mar 11, 2020 6:18 am^^ the reason for this is that the CDC haven't been able to get the kits out as there was a test kit manufacturing issue. The other issue is that in the US - therea re only 12 labs in just 5 states that have the ability to do the test! So a mixuture of complete ineptness, unclear policy, chronic underfunding and no foresight! But, if you elect a person who doesn't believe in science, that's what you get!
Lets start with climate denial...
He's also going on about how the wall would have saved America ( that's the US of A), if only people had listened. Highly scientific as the WHO has said closing borders, like the Italians have done, doesn't work.
On the comment you quoted, how come the most expensive health care in the world is so shit when it comes to epidemics? Anybody would think that they just cared about money.
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Harold you numpty bastard, for the 147th time, reporting my posts to me does not work !?!?
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How do you measure if it works or not? No refugee wants to settle in Italy. They are trying to enter more generous countries. They are just passing through Italy.kungfufighter wrote: ↑Wed Mar 11, 2020 6:43 pmHighly scientific as the WHO has said closing borders, like the Italians have done, doesn't work.
kungfufighter wrote: ↑Wed Mar 11, 2020 6:43 pmWhat hasn't he done, more likeHarold wrote: ↑Wed Mar 11, 2020 6:32 pmWhat has Trump said or done that makes you believe that he "doesn't believe in science"?chubacca wrote: ↑Wed Mar 11, 2020 6:18 am^^ the reason for this is that the CDC haven't been able to get the kits out as there was a test kit manufacturing issue. The other issue is that in the US - therea re only 12 labs in just 5 states that have the ability to do the test! So a mixuture of complete ineptness, unclear policy, chronic underfunding and no foresight! But, if you elect a person who doesn't believe in science, that's what you get!
Lets start with climate denial...
He's also going on about how the wall would have saved America ( that's the US of A), if only people had listened. Highly scientific as the WHO has said closing borders, like the Italians have done, doesn't work.
On the comment you quoted, how come the most expensive health care in the world is so shit when it comes to epidemics? Anybody would think that they just cared about money.
Trump denies he existence of climate?
Or do you mean he doesn't base his policies on the rants of a 17yo goblin with severe mental issues?
None but ourselves can free our mind.
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This isn't from the WHO, but contains data from the CDC. It concerns Ebola, another of the Corona viruses.Alexandra wrote: ↑Wed Mar 11, 2020 7:04 pmHow do you measure if it works or not? No refugee wants to settle in Italy. They are trying to enter more generous countries. They are just passing through Italy.kungfufighter wrote: ↑Wed Mar 11, 2020 6:43 pmHighly scientific as the WHO has said closing borders, like the Italians have done, doesn't work.
I quote:
'In opposing this idea, public health experts unanimously agree: sealing borders will not stop Ebola spread and will only exacerbate the crisis in West Africa — and heighten the risk of a global pandemic.
There are three reasons why it's a crazy idea. The first is that it just won't work to stop the virus. The weeks following 9/11, when people stopped getting on planes, provided influenza researchers with a natural experiment in what a travel ban might do to viral spread. They found it didn't stop influenza from moving, it only delayed flu season by a couple of weeks.
What's more, the researchers didn't measure whether this delay actually reduced flu cases or saved lives. But a look at the CDC data shows that flu deaths actually massively spiked during the 2001-2002 flu season, rising from about 3,900 the year before to more than 13,000 post-9/11.
Writing in the Washington Post, Laurie Garrett — senior fellow for global health at the Council on Foreign Relations — pointed out: "Many nations have banned flights from other countries in recent years in hopes of blocking the entry of viruses, including SARS and H1N1 'swine flu,'" she added. "None of the bans were effective, and the viruses gained entry to populations regardless of what radical measures were taken to keep them out."
In CDC Director Tom Freiden's words, "Even when governments restrict travel and trade, people in affected countries still find a way to move and it is even harder to track them systematically." In other words, determined people will find a way to cross borders anyway, but unlike at airports, we can't track their movements.
90 PERCENT OF ANY OUTBREAK'S ECONOMIC COSTS "COME FROM IRRATIONAL AND DISORGANIZED EFFORTS OF THE PUBLIC TO AVOID INFECTION."
The second reason a travel ban won't work is that it would actually make stopping the outbreak in West Africa more difficult. Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said, "To completely seal off and don't let planes in or out of the West African countries involved, then you could paradoxically make things much worse in the sense that you can't get supplies in, you can't get help in, you can't get the kinds of things in there that we need to contain the epidemic."
Some have suggested a half-measure: close borders allowing exceptions for doctors, aid workers, and medical supplies only. The problem with this idea is that responses to humanitarian crises are not well-organized affairs. They're chaos. A bureaucratic regime that systematically screens who can go in and out of affected countries would only slow down or make impossible the much-needed relief. Plus, many aid workers — like reserve staff for Doctors Without Borders — would be responsible for booking their own tickets to get to the affected region. How would they do this then? And how long would it take to get them over there?
The third reason closing borders is nuts is that it will devastate the economies of West Africa and further destroy the limited health systems there. The World Bank already estimates this outbreak could cost West African economies up to $33 billion. That's a lot for any country, but especially when you're talking about some of the world's poorest. World Health Organization director Margaret Chan reminded us that 90 percent of any outbreak's economic costs "come from irrational and disorganized efforts of the public to avoid infection."
https://www.vox.com/2014/10/13/6964633/ ... reak-virus
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Hot Pink is obviously a die hard with a vengeance Trump supporter as he didn't like what the CDC etc were saying.
Here's a more on that topic article for you.
I suggest you put down your gun and read it.
AS TRUMP STUMBLES ON CORONAVIRUS, HEALTH EXPERTS WARN AGAINST BORDER CLOSURES
Margaret Harris, a World Health Organization spokesperson and medical doctor currently involved in the Covid-19 response, echoed the concerns about the false comfort of closing borders.
“You divert a lot of resources when you are focused on closing borders, rather than focusing on protecting your health workers, preparing your health systems, and enhancing your disease surveillance,” she told The Intercept. “You mistakenly think, ‘Oh, we closed our borders. We’re fine.’ But giving people the sense that they are the enemy, that they are the problem, makes people hide because they become very frightened of the consequences. They’re not sure that identifying themselves with the authorities will be something that has good consequences for them as we saw with Ebola.”
Continue reading
https://theintercept.com/2020/03/05/cor ... g-borders/
Here's a more on that topic article for you.
I suggest you put down your gun and read it.
AS TRUMP STUMBLES ON CORONAVIRUS, HEALTH EXPERTS WARN AGAINST BORDER CLOSURES
Margaret Harris, a World Health Organization spokesperson and medical doctor currently involved in the Covid-19 response, echoed the concerns about the false comfort of closing borders.
“You divert a lot of resources when you are focused on closing borders, rather than focusing on protecting your health workers, preparing your health systems, and enhancing your disease surveillance,” she told The Intercept. “You mistakenly think, ‘Oh, we closed our borders. We’re fine.’ But giving people the sense that they are the enemy, that they are the problem, makes people hide because they become very frightened of the consequences. They’re not sure that identifying themselves with the authorities will be something that has good consequences for them as we saw with Ebola.”
Continue reading
https://theintercept.com/2020/03/05/cor ... g-borders/
Up the workers!
Ebola isn't a type of coronavirus.
Mongolia definitely did the right thing when they closed their border with China and restricted travel into the country.
Illegal aliens in the United States are putting a huge strain on the healthcare system. Americans are receiving lower quality healthcare because doctors have to care for illegal aliens instead of focusing only on citizens.
Mongolia definitely did the right thing when they closed their border with China and restricted travel into the country.
Illegal aliens in the United States are putting a huge strain on the healthcare system. Americans are receiving lower quality healthcare because doctors have to care for illegal aliens instead of focusing only on citizens.
^Christ, does anyone ever read anything this dullard writes, or more likely just copies like a drone (the bee one) somewhere?
Hot Pink I read in the opening paragraph
Is clearly the most intelligent or well - informed poster we have.
Edit: The arrow, ^, was aimed at kungfoo whatever. Harold I adore.
Hot Pink I read in the opening paragraph
Is clearly the most intelligent or well - informed poster we have.
Edit: The arrow, ^, was aimed at kungfoo whatever. Harold I adore.
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^ That's racist !!Harold wrote: ↑Wed Mar 11, 2020 10:40 pmEbola isn't a type of coronavirus.
Mongolia definitely did the right thing when they closed their border with China and restricted travel into the country.
Illegal aliens in the United States are putting a huge strain on the healthcare system. Americans are receiving lower quality healthcare because doctors have to care for illegal aliens instead of focusing only on citizens.
"We, the sons of John Company, have arrived"
This post has upset me very much and I have reported it.Harold wrote: ↑Wed Mar 11, 2020 10:40 pmEbola isn't a type of coronavirus.
Mongolia definitely did the right thing when they closed their border with China and restricted travel into the country.
Illegal aliens in the United States are putting a huge strain on the healthcare system. Americans are receiving lower quality healthcare because doctors have to care for illegal aliens instead of focusing only on citizens.
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I totally agree.RobW wrote: ↑Wed Mar 11, 2020 11:29 pmThis post has upset me very much and I have reported it.Harold wrote: ↑Wed Mar 11, 2020 10:40 pmEbola isn't a type of coronavirus.
Mongolia definitely did the right thing when they closed their border with China and restricted travel into the country.
Illegal aliens in the United States are putting a huge strain on the healthcare system. Americans are receiving lower quality healthcare because doctors have to care for illegal aliens instead of focusing only on citizens.
Harold has been given 24 hours on the naughty step to think about what he has done
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