US Election 2020
'You jokingly make a frustrating point: if you are opposed to Trump and what he is and what he stands for, you’re derided as a socialist or libtard. It’s ridiculous.'
Agree 100%, bro
Just now people who complain about fascists shooting children for throwing stones will be called anti-Semites
Agree 100%, bro
Just now people who complain about fascists shooting children for throwing stones will be called anti-Semites
But you are an anti-Semite Vladimir. Do you not remember calling Pedro ‘a fucking Jew’ in a conversation with me once? I remember it well.wibblewible wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:00 am'You jokingly make a frustrating point: if you are opposed to Trump and what he is and what he stands for, you’re derided as a socialist or libtard. It’s ridiculous.'
Agree 100%, bro
Just now people who complain about fascists shooting children for throwing stones will be called anti-Semites
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Is Pedro a Jew?scobienz wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 1:58 pmBut you are an anti-Semite Vladimir. Do you not remember calling Pedro ‘a fucking Jew’ in a conversation with me once? I remember it well.wibblewible wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:00 am'You jokingly make a frustrating point: if you are opposed to Trump and what he is and what he stands for, you’re derided as a socialist or libtard. It’s ridiculous.'
Agree 100%, bro
Just now people who complain about fascists shooting children for throwing stones will be called anti-Semites
I like him even more now
Fred Edwards wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:18 pmIs Pedro a Jew?scobienz wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 1:58 pmBut you are an anti-Semite Vladimir. Do you not remember calling Pedro ‘a fucking Jew’ in a conversation with me once? I remember it well.wibblewible wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:00 am'You jokingly make a frustrating point: if you are opposed to Trump and what he is and what he stands for, you’re derided as a socialist or libtard. It’s ridiculous.'
Agree 100%, bro
Just now people who complain about fascists shooting children for throwing stones will be called anti-Semites
I like him even more now
Rather bizarrely - given vlad’s rant - Pedro isn’t Jewish.
But vlad sees calling someone a bloody Jew as an insult - make of that what you will.
It was only a matter of time but a similar thread on Gonk.com has been invaded by some Q Anon nutjob called monomanial. The other day he was deriding the notion that Biden would be inaugurated, suggesting that everyone should wait and see what happens on Jan 20th. He himself was looking forward to it with great excitement (and popcorn) and that by the end of the day everyone else would see the plan finally reveal itself.
Today of course, he his saying that he didnt mean that at all, and that everyone should wait until the end of the month and then (I suppose - i dunno) the plan would be revealed.
QAnon is extraordinary. How is it that the crazed ramblings of a seedy looky sexpat American pig farmer who lives near Manila has managed to exert such extraordinary influence in crackpot America?
Today of course, he his saying that he didnt mean that at all, and that everyone should wait until the end of the month and then (I suppose - i dunno) the plan would be revealed.
QAnon is extraordinary. How is it that the crazed ramblings of a seedy looky sexpat American pig farmer who lives near Manila has managed to exert such extraordinary influence in crackpot America?
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Now that the Trump has gone, can we close the window?
"Now, then, in order to understand white supremacy we must dismiss the notion that white people can give anybody their freedom." Stokely Carmichael
That is called demagogy.......Guest wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:46 pm.....
QAnon is extraordinary. How is it that the crazed ramblings of a seedy looky sexpat American pig farmer who lives near Manila has managed to exert such extraordinary influence in crackpot America?
Yeah, actually, that would be a very good move and decapitate GOP into gop and prevent Republicans to gain the White House, or Senate or House ever again.scobienz wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 4:23 pm.....
More significantly, Trump is reportedly talking to aides about setting up a Patriot Party. If he does that then he pretty much guarantees the Democrats will be in power for a long time: it will devastate the GOP and on its own it won’t be strong enough to win an election.
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v12 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:03 pmYeah, actually, that would be a very good move and decapitate GOP into gop and prevent Republicans to gain the White House, or Senate or House ever again.scobienz wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 4:23 pm.....
More significantly, Trump is reportedly talking to aides about setting up a Patriot Party. If he does that then he pretty much guarantees the Democrats will be in power for a long time: it will devastate the GOP and on its own it won’t be strong enough to win an election.
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That will be a very bad thing in my view. A functioning democracy needs an effective opposition - its all about trials and balances.
However, if he goes ahead it will certainly severely damage the GOP for at least the next decade and it will be all their own fault.
My personal take is it’s unlikely. Trump may set it up and he may even run again under the new party, but there is no way he has the wherewithal to put together a complete suite of candidates for house and senate seats, which is what would be required to make it effective, not to mention the state level reps.
But you are an anti-Semite Vladimir. Do you not remember calling Pedro ‘a fucking Jew’ in a conversation with me once? I remember it well.'
1. Deflection. You complain about people deflecting valid criticism but then deflect using exactly the same principle yourself.
2. vlad may have been mistaken, Jews are fussy and would never accept such a 'person into their ranks. Pretty certain he meant to use the word zionist.
3. vlad is not an anti-Semite, he dislikes Zionists when they shoot kids, steal land etc.
4. Please explain, using established moral and ethical standards, why vlad should not criticise the use of live ammunition against children, apartheid regimes, racism and land theft. It makes apartheid South Africa look like a fucking tea party. Many Jews have criticised the IDF an d Zionists for exactly the same things. Are they also anti-Semitic?
5. You yourself criticised apartheid SA and racism frequently, yet refuse to accept ANY criticism of a worse, more racist system system.
6. You worked (I'm being generous here) for a law firm in PP, and you don't see the hypocrisy in your logic?
Who would hire a 'business development manager' with your lack of logic?
You're an overpaid, prejudiced idiot, imho.
1. Deflection. You complain about people deflecting valid criticism but then deflect using exactly the same principle yourself.
2. vlad may have been mistaken, Jews are fussy and would never accept such a 'person into their ranks. Pretty certain he meant to use the word zionist.
3. vlad is not an anti-Semite, he dislikes Zionists when they shoot kids, steal land etc.
4. Please explain, using established moral and ethical standards, why vlad should not criticise the use of live ammunition against children, apartheid regimes, racism and land theft. It makes apartheid South Africa look like a fucking tea party. Many Jews have criticised the IDF an d Zionists for exactly the same things. Are they also anti-Semitic?
5. You yourself criticised apartheid SA and racism frequently, yet refuse to accept ANY criticism of a worse, more racist system system.
6. You worked (I'm being generous here) for a law firm in PP, and you don't see the hypocrisy in your logic?
Who would hire a 'business development manager' with your lack of logic?
You're an overpaid, prejudiced idiot, imho.
''That will be a very bad thing in my view. A functioning democracy needs an effective opposition - its all about trials and balances.'
Would you consider the UK a functioning democracy?
Do you, like me, dislike military dictatorships and fascists who abuse human rights?
We have lots in common, it seems.
Would you consider the UK a functioning democracy?
Do you, like me, dislike military dictatorships and fascists who abuse human rights?
We have lots in common, it seems.
I agree on that, though for now, the US needs quite some shift to the more human side of the money spectrum. GOP will never do that. Give them a few years, as long as Sanders his influence is not to big, OK.
Yep, so, it is becoming more likely GOP is agreeing with Trumpie his impeachment, which would decapitate his Patriot Party from a "leader" recognized by his followers to go for President. Trumpie (and none of the world-wide Patriot parties) do allow strong personalities aside of its leader/founder.
These one-person (often one-issue) parties live by the day and start falling apart, the moment they do get some power, see all over Europe. And yep, there will never be a strong set of candidates for the Congress, only followers. And these followers will have it very difficult in the state elections to start floating and beat Democrats and Republicans in the state to reach the Congress.scobienz wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:37 pmMy personal take is it’s unlikely. Trump may set it up and he may even run again under the new party, but there is no way he has the wherewithal to put together a complete suite of candidates for house and senate seats, which is what would be required to make it effective, not to mention the state level reps.
wibblewibble wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:53 pmBut you are an anti-Semite Vladimir. Do you not remember calling Pedro ‘a fucking Jew’ in a conversation with me once? I remember it well.'
1. Deflection. You complain about people deflecting valid criticism but then deflect using exactly the same principle yourself.
2. vlad may have been mistaken, Jews are fussy and would never accept such a 'person into their ranks. Pretty certain he meant to use the word zionist.
3. vlad is not an anti-Semite, he dislikes Zionists when they shoot kids, steal land etc.
4. Please explain, using established moral and ethical standards, why vlad should not criticise the use of live ammunition against children, apartheid regimes, racism and land theft. It makes apartheid South Africa look like a fucking tea party. Many Jews have criticised the IDF an d Zionists for exactly the same things. Are they also anti-Semitic?
5. You yourself criticised apartheid SA and racism frequently, yet refuse to accept ANY criticism of a worse, more racist system system.
6. You worked (I'm being generous here) for a law firm in PP, and you don't see the hypocrisy in your logic?
Who would hire a 'business development manager' with your lack of logic?
You're an overpaid, prejudiced idiot, imho.
Why are you talking about yourself in the third person vlad?
If you want to talk about logic, let’s get to the core of the issue: how can you deny you are anti-Semitic when you called Pedro a fucking Jew?
Don’t give me this ‘I made a mistake’ bollocks. You don’t mistakenly call someone a fucking Jew.
As for being overpaid - guilty as charged and proud of it. One can go through life as a penniless abject failure or one can choose to work as little as possible for as much as possible to give yourself a good life.
Which would you do?
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