MAGA and OBON
MAGA and OBON
Most of us know what MAGA stands for. But almost nobody knows what OBON stands for. A hint: the first is of american nature while the second is british.
Let's hope that the brits can prove to "Unite all People". That would be really nice after centuries of Shit.
Let's hope that the brits can prove to "Unite all People". That would be really nice after centuries of Shit.
Diabolical nonsense, it is ludicrous that the government even tried to get kids to sing this at school. It's a terrible song, dreadful lyrics, just awful any which way you look at it.
God Save the Queen, Land of Hope & Glory - that's everything a Brit needs.
Don't agree? Well answer this ... If you're Northern Irish, not part of Britain but is part of the United Kingdom, how do feel about being excluded from this utter bollocks? Probably quite happy!
And how do you say you hope Britain can "Unite all people"? People have been going to the United Kingdom since the glory days of the Victorian Empire; contrary to what media would have you believe, the country has masses of cultures & nationalities all living quite happily together for the most part. Do we have the odd fanatical Somali like the recent Germany case? Of course, but really an exception.
Centuries of shit? The very language you're using on this forum kinda tells a different story alone. Despite all the morons who have run the country for decades at least (I'll give you that!), it still remains a world superpower - a tiny little island in the middle of nowhere. Not quite the glory days of empire, but still the place that countless refugees & immigrants do their damn hardest to get through Europe onto its shores. It's not that bad. Mostly.
God Save the Queen, Land of Hope & Glory - that's everything a Brit needs.
Don't agree? Well answer this ... If you're Northern Irish, not part of Britain but is part of the United Kingdom, how do feel about being excluded from this utter bollocks? Probably quite happy!
And how do you say you hope Britain can "Unite all people"? People have been going to the United Kingdom since the glory days of the Victorian Empire; contrary to what media would have you believe, the country has masses of cultures & nationalities all living quite happily together for the most part. Do we have the odd fanatical Somali like the recent Germany case? Of course, but really an exception.
Centuries of shit? The very language you're using on this forum kinda tells a different story alone. Despite all the morons who have run the country for decades at least (I'll give you that!), it still remains a world superpower - a tiny little island in the middle of nowhere. Not quite the glory days of empire, but still the place that countless refugees & immigrants do their damn hardest to get through Europe onto its shores. It's not that bad. Mostly.
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ut sint Guinness proxima morientis ori.
tunc cantabunt letius angelorum chori:
"Sit Deus propitius huic potatori."
ut sint Guinness proxima morientis ori.
tunc cantabunt letius angelorum chori:
"Sit Deus propitius huic potatori."
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Also interesting to note that in the news today the discovery that there were North African sailors as well as Southern Iberians on the Mary Rose which was Henry VIII flag ship!
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Off topic.
Every time I see the word Iberians (not that often granted) I read librarians. It makes for an interesting understanding of history and geography.
I never understood why Michael Jackson sang about that librarian girl.
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It does, and unlikely to change - London , more specifically the City of London (that's the prime financial area for those who have never been), is perfectly placed to capture the close of the Eastern markets, and be open for the US markets coming online. Thanks to a terrifically archaic financial system where banks and the like still have their "End of Day" processes running on 1960s COBOL systems, I don't see that changing any time soon. it remains to be seen what impact Brexit will have longer term, but this also seems so far to be a long way from the immediate doom & gloom apocalypse that most people had as a prediction - despite the most bumbling idiotic Houses of Parliament in my lifetime being the executioners!bargain basement wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 5:47 am#5 is a long way from #1
I doubt it will be #5 in a few years.
I think that most of its power derives from banking and finance?
Meum est propositum in taberna mori,
ut sint Guinness proxima morientis ori.
tunc cantabunt letius angelorum chori:
"Sit Deus propitius huic potatori."
ut sint Guinness proxima morientis ori.
tunc cantabunt letius angelorum chori:
"Sit Deus propitius huic potatori."
While I definitely support the message of the song, I suspect that a truly multicultural UK is idealistic and unobtainable in our lifetimes. The UK is a white supremacist country where Blacks are far more likely to be victims of violence than whites and are arrested and imprisoned at far higher rates than whites. Blacks in the UK also earn less than whites and are far more likely to live in poverty than whites. This is despite the fact that anthropologists like Jared Diamond readily acknowledge that Black Africans and indigenous peoples are most likely more intelligent than whites as they did not enjoy the comforts of industrial civilization as early on as whites and therefore they had to rely on their intelligence to survive. Moreover, most anthropologists will admit the superior methods of pedagogy of indigenous people and people of colour. Seeing as how this is the case, white supremacy is the only possible explanation for why Blacks in the UK play second fiddle to the whites.
As an American, who has also grew up in a white supremacist country, I am shocked by the callous disrespect that white Britishers show for people of color. One only needs to look at the racial abuse that former admins of this forum spewed and it proves my point. This kind of racial hatred is blatant and in your face and is unfortunately something that Americans will notice about white Britishers.
There are also more subtle forms of racism. For example, the ultra-nationalist Spigzy pretending that his tiny island nation is a "world superpower" even though the Russians could turn the entire country into radioactive ash in a matter of minutes. Or Spigzy attacking the 'Britishness' of the song you posted and saying that "God Save the Queen" is a more 'British' song. Of course the Queen being referred to is the Queen of England, whose family has overseen the murder and oppression of tens of millions of people over the course of many centuriies.
As for the City of London, even though it is a multicultural city, it remains a citadel of white supremacy.
As an American, who has also grew up in a white supremacist country, I am shocked by the callous disrespect that white Britishers show for people of color. One only needs to look at the racial abuse that former admins of this forum spewed and it proves my point. This kind of racial hatred is blatant and in your face and is unfortunately something that Americans will notice about white Britishers.
There are also more subtle forms of racism. For example, the ultra-nationalist Spigzy pretending that his tiny island nation is a "world superpower" even though the Russians could turn the entire country into radioactive ash in a matter of minutes. Or Spigzy attacking the 'Britishness' of the song you posted and saying that "God Save the Queen" is a more 'British' song. Of course the Queen being referred to is the Queen of England, whose family has overseen the murder and oppression of tens of millions of people over the course of many centuriies.
As for the City of London, even though it is a multicultural city, it remains a citadel of white supremacy.
I am neither a white supremacist nor ultra-nationlist, you are very mistaken. I think I also ended my comment with " It's not that bad. Mostly", which to all intents and purposes equates to "I know it isn't perfect" - sorry if that is lost in translation.
I don't however agree with you that white people are the cause of all ills of black people's modern day problems; even slavery was utterly impossible without cooperation from black middlemen faciliating the kidnapping of other black people on a tremendous scale for greed. Likewise, if living in the USA or UK is so bad for black people, why not emigrate to Africa & try to resettle there? Oh because it is a total bloody disaster that no black person living in the West would seriously contemplate - but why, when it is a "black supremacy"? The last slave ship was in 1860 - why havent African countries developed at all in the absence of those pesky white people interfering in their countries for 160 years? What does your mate Jared say about that? With those stupid neanderthal Europeans out the way for so long, there must be some hidden Wakanda there right? Likewise, how long will this go on for? Look at Jews for instance, 6m wiped out by Nazis barely 75 years ago (along with other brutal treatment from other nations long before that is often forgotten) but I don't see any of them moping around blaming the Germans for the plight of themselves or their ancestors.
Back to topic, you make it sound like white people in London walk around all day in Klu Klux Klan outfits - this isn't the case at all. I lived in Ilford, Lewisham, Woolwich & New Cross - I was a minority white guy in my own capital city in those areas; and it didn't bother me one bit. In my pre-school I was one of two white kids in a class of twenty five. But, I had fantastic curries to enjoy instead of fish & chips - talk football with absolutely anyone, learn a shedload about other cultures. I have never been to the USA, so can't comment there, but when I'm in London it is full to the brim of cultures all sitting side by side on the tube. Sure with conflict sometimes, and there are some shitholes like Millwall that I agree are still very racist; but on the whole I never saw a black person or other race feel unsafe in London because of white people. A lot of the issues stem not because of skin colour, but pure poverty. You can point to high crime in black areas - and usually black on black crime, but it would be the same if you look at medieval data with white on white crime; it is all borne of poverty. This is something every nation needs to tackle; and my stance on that is actually the empowerment of women above all else.
My opinion on all people, whatever colour, sexuality, etc. including those modern day folks identifying as a pineapple laden love pizza with snowflakes on top {them/they}; is that they are just another person, and until they're nasty to me, I'll open a door & be nice as pie to them - from cleaner (janitor to you) through to king, I don't care. Hope that clarifies my stance without forgetting that I am English when all is said & done, and I have no shame to say that in the balance of the world where far worse could have ensued if not for the British & chums. But I am sorry about Millwall.
I don't however agree with you that white people are the cause of all ills of black people's modern day problems; even slavery was utterly impossible without cooperation from black middlemen faciliating the kidnapping of other black people on a tremendous scale for greed. Likewise, if living in the USA or UK is so bad for black people, why not emigrate to Africa & try to resettle there? Oh because it is a total bloody disaster that no black person living in the West would seriously contemplate - but why, when it is a "black supremacy"? The last slave ship was in 1860 - why havent African countries developed at all in the absence of those pesky white people interfering in their countries for 160 years? What does your mate Jared say about that? With those stupid neanderthal Europeans out the way for so long, there must be some hidden Wakanda there right? Likewise, how long will this go on for? Look at Jews for instance, 6m wiped out by Nazis barely 75 years ago (along with other brutal treatment from other nations long before that is often forgotten) but I don't see any of them moping around blaming the Germans for the plight of themselves or their ancestors.
Back to topic, you make it sound like white people in London walk around all day in Klu Klux Klan outfits - this isn't the case at all. I lived in Ilford, Lewisham, Woolwich & New Cross - I was a minority white guy in my own capital city in those areas; and it didn't bother me one bit. In my pre-school I was one of two white kids in a class of twenty five. But, I had fantastic curries to enjoy instead of fish & chips - talk football with absolutely anyone, learn a shedload about other cultures. I have never been to the USA, so can't comment there, but when I'm in London it is full to the brim of cultures all sitting side by side on the tube. Sure with conflict sometimes, and there are some shitholes like Millwall that I agree are still very racist; but on the whole I never saw a black person or other race feel unsafe in London because of white people. A lot of the issues stem not because of skin colour, but pure poverty. You can point to high crime in black areas - and usually black on black crime, but it would be the same if you look at medieval data with white on white crime; it is all borne of poverty. This is something every nation needs to tackle; and my stance on that is actually the empowerment of women above all else.
My opinion on all people, whatever colour, sexuality, etc. including those modern day folks identifying as a pineapple laden love pizza with snowflakes on top {them/they}; is that they are just another person, and until they're nasty to me, I'll open a door & be nice as pie to them - from cleaner (janitor to you) through to king, I don't care. Hope that clarifies my stance without forgetting that I am English when all is said & done, and I have no shame to say that in the balance of the world where far worse could have ensued if not for the British & chums. But I am sorry about Millwall.
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Meum est propositum in taberna mori,
ut sint Guinness proxima morientis ori.
tunc cantabunt letius angelorum chori:
"Sit Deus propitius huic potatori."
ut sint Guinness proxima morientis ori.
tunc cantabunt letius angelorum chori:
"Sit Deus propitius huic potatori."
We will have to agree to disagree about but you hit the nail on the head with this sentence. As BoJo said, "[In response to this pandemic, we should focus on] 'building back greener and building back fairer and building back more equal and in a more gender neutral, perhaps a more feminine way.'This is something every nation needs to tackle; and my stance on that is actually the empowerment of women above all else.
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I moved to London in my late teens and thought it was fantastic. I lived in what would have been rough enough areas in Mile End and around Brixton but never had any trouble. A lot more than could be said of Dublin at the time where there was too much casual violence. I don't suppose it's like that anymore though, even by the time I left there I was getting wary of some of the nasty chavs and Somalian gangs stabbing the fuck out of anyone.Spigzy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 5:20 pm
Back to topic, you make it sound like white people in London walk around all day in Klu Klux Klan outfits - this isn't the case at all. I lived in Ilford, Lewisham, Woolwich & New Cross - I was a minority white guy in my own capital city in those areas; and it didn't bother me one bit. In my pre-school I was one of two white kids in a class of twenty five. But, I had fantastic curries to enjoy instead of fish & chips - talk football with absolutely anyone, learn a shedload about other cultures. I have never been to the USA, so can't comment there, but when I'm in London it is full to the brim of cultures all sitting side by side on the tube. Sure with conflict sometimes, and there are some shitholes like Millwall that I agree are still very racist; but on the whole I never saw a black person or other race feel unsafe in London because of white people. A lot of the issues stem not because of skin colour, but pure poverty. You can point to high crime in black areas - and usually black on black crime, but it would be the same if you look at medieval data with white on white crime; it is all borne of poverty. This is something every nation needs to tackle; and my stance on that is actually the empowerment of women above all else.
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OBON stands for :
Nothing to get excited about. Other nations have similar national anthems. My notion about Britain of which i visited Ireland/Northern Island, Wales, England and the Manchester Area is that i love the Brits. Their humour is unmatched. I walked into a store back in the 60s and was greeted "What can i do for you Luv ?" Now that's culture. The future of Britain and infact the rest of the world will be very different i think. Britain will turn into a Vergin Island Money Laundering Hot Spot, Europe will return to the 1700s except for the Catholics which will be replaced by Atheists and US based TV/Mobile Phone Evangelicals. My only hope is that they stir away from this toxic US Alliance which due to it''s Nato Membership could bring War which is something we all need like a hole i the head.
Nothing to get excited about. Other nations have similar national anthems. My notion about Britain of which i visited Ireland/Northern Island, Wales, England and the Manchester Area is that i love the Brits. Their humour is unmatched. I walked into a store back in the 60s and was greeted "What can i do for you Luv ?" Now that's culture. The future of Britain and infact the rest of the world will be very different i think. Britain will turn into a Vergin Island Money Laundering Hot Spot, Europe will return to the 1700s except for the Catholics which will be replaced by Atheists and US based TV/Mobile Phone Evangelicals. My only hope is that they stir away from this toxic US Alliance which due to it''s Nato Membership could bring War which is something we all need like a hole i the head.