Male and Female has now got a third gender officially mentioned in US Passports. Instead of "Others" it is now called "Intersex" which in my opinion could be misleading.
In the Rag Trade the phenomenom of other sexes is not new. Back in the 60s when flare jeans were in we started calling Jeans that were worn by men and women alike "Unisex". I did enjoy going to Transvestite Bars where the transformation of local guys like "joe the plumber" turning into a beutiful lady were demonstrated life on stage for everyone to follow. Now it has all become politicised and therefore robbed a lot of the fun in it.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/us-passp ... 73e5c1fea9
Gender upgrade in US Passport Dept.
Here: Rather than bemoaning all the bullshit, let's focus on how it can be used to our advantage.
Yeah, i agree. Let's make it simple like in the old days and call Genders : HE, SHE, IT !
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That qoute about, '...then they came for the neighbors, then they came for me, etc.' comes to mind.
I get the 'fk it' mentality too.
Here, if I copied this correctly, this is related, in concept, from a UK feminist:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Can't believe I'm listening to a UK supreme court hearing where it's being claimed middle class people who want to pretend they're sexless are a)marginalised or b)subject to psychological harm by having their sex listed on their passport. This whole case is about their privilege.</p>— Roary (@GrRoary) <a href=" 12, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Another platitude: 'divided we fall'.
Fall to our own human nature?
That might be why I'm an alcoholic.
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'Then they came for the neighbours'
You have really butchered that quote, makes me wonder if you really know it or the context of it. Better get googling son.
What do you think 'they' will do? Come for you and make you change your gender?
Why do people insist on comparing the stupidest things with Nazi Germany/Holocaust?
You have really butchered that quote, makes me wonder if you really know it or the context of it. Better get googling son.
What do you think 'they' will do? Come for you and make you change your gender?
Why do people insist on comparing the stupidest things with Nazi Germany/Holocaust?
Hey guy's and girls and X's, Calm down. This Gender - Bender issue has been around for hundreds, if not thousands of years. People i mean reall life people that are considered X often having to live a nightmare due to the prejudice of those that want to define: Normal ! If there ever was such a thing within humanity.
This piece is worth reading. It explains a bit more to those that claim to be either / or gender.
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X gender on my passport instead of male or female is just the start: I want to identify as a dolphin
Charlie Stone
Charlie Stone is an author and journalist who has worked for the BBC, several national newspapers in the UK and international media.
13 Jul, 2021 06:58
The UK Supreme Court is hearing a case arguing that male and female-only categories on passports are 'degrading' and 'illogical', and X would hit the spot better. I don’t think it goes nearly far enough. I identify as a DOLPHIN.
Imagine if ALL your problems, all the worries that have ever niggled you in your whole life could just be washed away by replacing a single word with an ‘X’, just the one mind you: get rid of male/female, for example, and the world is a perfect place.
This seems to be the view of one of the parties in an ongoing legal battle over marking one’s gender on one’s passport with an X instead of male or female, which has bafflingly gone all the way to the Supreme Court of the United Kingdom. Dunno who’s paying their legal bills, but the lawyers must be loving this fight, all this energy being applied to the most pointless legal battle anyone could possibly dream up.
Lawyers representing ‘non-gendered campaigner’ Christie Elan-Cane argue that male and female-only categories on passports are “degrading” and “illogical” and people should be allowed to just be X instead. Christie, you see, has to lie on his/her form at the moment and that’s dishonest.
Never mind the fact that, if Christie is ever suspected of smuggling drugs through passport control, there could soon be a rubber glove wearing Customs officer checking precisely which orifi he/she possesses. A vagina, ask any drug courier who has worked the airline route from the Caribbean to the UK, is a great place to hide condoms stuffed with cocaine. They much prefer women to men, for basic biological reasons. They have more space.
Maybe the customs bloke will have to sign a form, saying they promise not to look? Interesting. That’s a legal fight for the future.
Anyway isn’t the entire point of a passport to show you are who you say you are and not an illegal alien, and doesn’t male/female denote a very simple fact? That this person possesses a penis or a vagina. I thought you were supposed to put it on your passport form if you have any scars or deformities or tattoos?
It’s not just gender, a whole new world of courtroom dramas featuring fascinating identity-based legal cases is opening up. Here’s one: a Dutch bloke doesn’t quite like his true age – ie: the days that have passed since the day he was born – because it makes him seem a bit old. Emile Ratelband was 69 when he petitioned the court to say he felt 20 years younger and his doctors said he was sprightly for his age. He wanted to be 49. And why not?
"When I'm 69, I am limited. If I'm 49, then I can buy a new house, drive a different car," he said. "I can take up more work. When I'm on Tinder and it says I'm 69, I don't get an answer. When I'm 49, with the face I have, I will be in a luxurious position.
"Because nowadays, in Europe and in the United States, we are free people. We can make our own decisions if we want to change our name, or if we want to change our gender. So I want to change my age. My feeling about my body and about my mind is that I'm about 40 or 45."
That’s not nearly far enough though. Nope. No way. Kat (of course) Lyons from Colorado in the US likes to dress up as a cat, she climbs things and also drinks from a bowl. Ms Lyons has ‘identified’ as a kitten since she was at high school. She says it’s her ‘true self’, and her boyfriend loves her for it.
And what about Jareth Nebula (of course it’s a made-up name), this being wasn’t content with just being transgender. Oh no. Now this thing wants to live as a sexless alien and has had its nipples removed.... Err? Maybe aliens have nipples, oh no Nebula! You might have to have them sewn back on again. I wasn’t being rude calling Jareth Nebula ‘thing’, by the way: that’s what ‘it’ wants to be called – ‘thing’ or ‘it’.
"After coming out as transgender and believing I had finally found myself, I realised I was wrong – I wasn’t male or female, or even human. I don’t think or feel like humans. I can’t really explain it to others – I’m simply otherworldly. I didn’t feel comfortable as either gender or even anything in between. I know I’m stuck in a human form and that’s how I’m perceived by others – but to me, I’m an alien with no gender.”
Imagine the poor passport office bureaucrat, when they process this alien life form’s form? You’re not going anywhere, Jareth Nebula. You won’t get through passport control – not on this planet anyway. Stay home and watch Star Trek instead.
Then there’s Kimberel Eventide, who identifies as an elf… On and on and on it boldly goes.
Awesome! My passport is up for renewal soon. Well, dear reader, I have a confession to make. Just like Gerald off South Park, I identify as a dolphin. I have always felt like an aquatic mammal, as if I had some kind of a ‘special porpoise’ … but I thought it was just me doing a really bad Bronx accent.
Also on rt.com If men ‘only eat steak to feel butch’ and should go vegan, what are we gonna do with a billion cows?
From now on I want to be called ‘Flipper Stone’ and to be rewarded for water based tricks with fish. I also want to stay at a nice young age, let’s say 23 or so, forever; just like a cartoon character.
Anyone know a good lawyer?
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PS:As soon as the "X" is put in my passport i will add: YES, OHMeGOD YES !!
This piece is worth reading. It explains a bit more to those that claim to be either / or gender.
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X gender on my passport instead of male or female is just the start: I want to identify as a dolphin
Charlie Stone
Charlie Stone is an author and journalist who has worked for the BBC, several national newspapers in the UK and international media.
13 Jul, 2021 06:58
The UK Supreme Court is hearing a case arguing that male and female-only categories on passports are 'degrading' and 'illogical', and X would hit the spot better. I don’t think it goes nearly far enough. I identify as a DOLPHIN.
Imagine if ALL your problems, all the worries that have ever niggled you in your whole life could just be washed away by replacing a single word with an ‘X’, just the one mind you: get rid of male/female, for example, and the world is a perfect place.
This seems to be the view of one of the parties in an ongoing legal battle over marking one’s gender on one’s passport with an X instead of male or female, which has bafflingly gone all the way to the Supreme Court of the United Kingdom. Dunno who’s paying their legal bills, but the lawyers must be loving this fight, all this energy being applied to the most pointless legal battle anyone could possibly dream up.
Lawyers representing ‘non-gendered campaigner’ Christie Elan-Cane argue that male and female-only categories on passports are “degrading” and “illogical” and people should be allowed to just be X instead. Christie, you see, has to lie on his/her form at the moment and that’s dishonest.
Never mind the fact that, if Christie is ever suspected of smuggling drugs through passport control, there could soon be a rubber glove wearing Customs officer checking precisely which orifi he/she possesses. A vagina, ask any drug courier who has worked the airline route from the Caribbean to the UK, is a great place to hide condoms stuffed with cocaine. They much prefer women to men, for basic biological reasons. They have more space.
Maybe the customs bloke will have to sign a form, saying they promise not to look? Interesting. That’s a legal fight for the future.
Anyway isn’t the entire point of a passport to show you are who you say you are and not an illegal alien, and doesn’t male/female denote a very simple fact? That this person possesses a penis or a vagina. I thought you were supposed to put it on your passport form if you have any scars or deformities or tattoos?
It’s not just gender, a whole new world of courtroom dramas featuring fascinating identity-based legal cases is opening up. Here’s one: a Dutch bloke doesn’t quite like his true age – ie: the days that have passed since the day he was born – because it makes him seem a bit old. Emile Ratelband was 69 when he petitioned the court to say he felt 20 years younger and his doctors said he was sprightly for his age. He wanted to be 49. And why not?
"When I'm 69, I am limited. If I'm 49, then I can buy a new house, drive a different car," he said. "I can take up more work. When I'm on Tinder and it says I'm 69, I don't get an answer. When I'm 49, with the face I have, I will be in a luxurious position.
"Because nowadays, in Europe and in the United States, we are free people. We can make our own decisions if we want to change our name, or if we want to change our gender. So I want to change my age. My feeling about my body and about my mind is that I'm about 40 or 45."
That’s not nearly far enough though. Nope. No way. Kat (of course) Lyons from Colorado in the US likes to dress up as a cat, she climbs things and also drinks from a bowl. Ms Lyons has ‘identified’ as a kitten since she was at high school. She says it’s her ‘true self’, and her boyfriend loves her for it.
And what about Jareth Nebula (of course it’s a made-up name), this being wasn’t content with just being transgender. Oh no. Now this thing wants to live as a sexless alien and has had its nipples removed.... Err? Maybe aliens have nipples, oh no Nebula! You might have to have them sewn back on again. I wasn’t being rude calling Jareth Nebula ‘thing’, by the way: that’s what ‘it’ wants to be called – ‘thing’ or ‘it’.
"After coming out as transgender and believing I had finally found myself, I realised I was wrong – I wasn’t male or female, or even human. I don’t think or feel like humans. I can’t really explain it to others – I’m simply otherworldly. I didn’t feel comfortable as either gender or even anything in between. I know I’m stuck in a human form and that’s how I’m perceived by others – but to me, I’m an alien with no gender.”
Imagine the poor passport office bureaucrat, when they process this alien life form’s form? You’re not going anywhere, Jareth Nebula. You won’t get through passport control – not on this planet anyway. Stay home and watch Star Trek instead.
Then there’s Kimberel Eventide, who identifies as an elf… On and on and on it boldly goes.
Awesome! My passport is up for renewal soon. Well, dear reader, I have a confession to make. Just like Gerald off South Park, I identify as a dolphin. I have always felt like an aquatic mammal, as if I had some kind of a ‘special porpoise’ … but I thought it was just me doing a really bad Bronx accent.
Also on rt.com If men ‘only eat steak to feel butch’ and should go vegan, what are we gonna do with a billion cows?
From now on I want to be called ‘Flipper Stone’ and to be rewarded for water based tricks with fish. I also want to stay at a nice young age, let’s say 23 or so, forever; just like a cartoon character.
Anyone know a good lawyer?
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PS:As soon as the "X" is put in my passport i will add: YES, OHMeGOD YES !!
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Personally I don't care what sex people put on their passport; but I am irrelevant is this discussion. Who matter are random border officials/authorities/militants in countries which take a somewhat dimmer view.
If you mark your sex other than F/M and only intend on ever traveling to Australia/Netherlands/Japan, you'll be fine. Just don't pop into Doha to watch the football, Tanzania to see the elephants or Barbados to sit on the beach.
If you mark your sex other than F/M and only intend on ever traveling to Australia/Netherlands/Japan, you'll be fine. Just don't pop into Doha to watch the football, Tanzania to see the elephants or Barbados to sit on the beach.
A thousand ways to love. Argentina the last one to join the "X" Club.
BUENOS AIRES, July 21 (Reuters) - Argentina rolled out identification cards on Wednesday for non-binary citizens, who neither identify as male nor female, allowing them to use "x" in their important national ID document and passports in the field corresponding to gender.
The South American country is the first in the region to enable this via decree, the center-left government said, adding it was joining countries such as New Zealand, Canada and Australia, which have already carried out the change.
"There are other identities besides that of man and woman, and they must be respected," said President Alberto Fernández at the presentation of the new document, adding there were "a thousand ways to love and be loved and be happy."
source:https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/ ... 021-07-21/
BUENOS AIRES, July 21 (Reuters) - Argentina rolled out identification cards on Wednesday for non-binary citizens, who neither identify as male nor female, allowing them to use "x" in their important national ID document and passports in the field corresponding to gender.
The South American country is the first in the region to enable this via decree, the center-left government said, adding it was joining countries such as New Zealand, Canada and Australia, which have already carried out the change.
"There are other identities besides that of man and woman, and they must be respected," said President Alberto Fernández at the presentation of the new document, adding there were "a thousand ways to love and be loved and be happy."
source:https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/ ... 021-07-21/
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