Inside the CIA’s secret Kabul base, burned out and abandoned in haste
If you read this you'll find that Guantanamo Torture Camp has had a branch in Kabul.
Other torture techniques recorded at the site included “rectal feeding”, shackling prisoners to bars overhead, and depriving inmates of toilet “privileges”, leaving them naked or wearing adult diapers.
During the Press visit to the former CIA Base it became clear that there are lots of Taliban Suicide Bombers that would like to take revenge of what was done to their country.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/ ... d-in-haste
Afghanistan
The consequences of the ad hoc departure of US and NATO Troops from Afghanistan now become more apparent.
Charlotte’s notorious affordable housing problem hampers Afghan evacuees
Charlotte’s refugee resettlement agencies are warning of a potential roadblock for the influx of Afghans who fled the country during the Taliban takeover in August: finding an affordable place to live.
Resettlement agencies — those tasked with providing support for refugees, asylum seekers and others who flee international crises — rely on landlords for open apartments and houses where they can place displaced families.
In Charlotte, though, it will be complicated. Housing markets are tight. Apartments and houses are bought up or rented quickly, leaving few options for the agencies tasked with helping vulnerable international families who are starting new lives in the United States.
The agencies are calling for help.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/charlotte-no ... 12057.html
Charlotte’s notorious affordable housing problem hampers Afghan evacuees
Charlotte’s refugee resettlement agencies are warning of a potential roadblock for the influx of Afghans who fled the country during the Taliban takeover in August: finding an affordable place to live.
Resettlement agencies — those tasked with providing support for refugees, asylum seekers and others who flee international crises — rely on landlords for open apartments and houses where they can place displaced families.
In Charlotte, though, it will be complicated. Housing markets are tight. Apartments and houses are bought up or rented quickly, leaving few options for the agencies tasked with helping vulnerable international families who are starting new lives in the United States.
The agencies are calling for help.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/charlotte-no ... 12057.html
The EU situation isn't much different.
The whole comes back to the simple fact, that you can't "bring" a democracy. A democracy has to grow from inside the country.
The same applies to the US itself, see what happened on Jan 6, 2021. The same happens now in several former Eastern Europe EU states. All countries with limited "experience" with how a country should work, to take care all its citizens are served and not only the happy few.
When withdrawing from a failed democracy state, like Afghanistan, there is a chicken-egg situation: As long as there is military presence to protect, the civilians don't see the urgency to move out. And once the military is at its smallest present and further leaving, the chaos is that much, that the civilians won't be able to travel in a normal way.
So, yeah, chaos around the Afghanistan withdrawal was inevitable, and the bomb casualties did come due to the Trumpie "agreement" to release 5000 prisoners from jail. The bomber at the airport got released just a few days before the attack.
The whole comes back to the simple fact, that you can't "bring" a democracy. A democracy has to grow from inside the country.
The same applies to the US itself, see what happened on Jan 6, 2021. The same happens now in several former Eastern Europe EU states. All countries with limited "experience" with how a country should work, to take care all its citizens are served and not only the happy few.
When withdrawing from a failed democracy state, like Afghanistan, there is a chicken-egg situation: As long as there is military presence to protect, the civilians don't see the urgency to move out. And once the military is at its smallest present and further leaving, the chaos is that much, that the civilians won't be able to travel in a normal way.
So, yeah, chaos around the Afghanistan withdrawal was inevitable, and the bomb casualties did come due to the Trumpie "agreement" to release 5000 prisoners from jail. The bomber at the airport got released just a few days before the attack.
‘Send us home,’ beg Afghan refugees stuck in UK hotels Operation "Warm Welcome in the UK" not much apreciated.
I expected something like this in the US where a large number of Afghan Refugees have to live in Army Quarters (sometimes for years) until they are "processed". I don't know how many are waiting in Qatar, Uganda, Albania, Germany, and many other places where the US dumped their rescued Afghans temporarily. How bad must it get for a refugee that was airlifted out of this Hell hole Afghanistan which is now ruled by the Taliban ?
Launched by Boris Johnson on 29 August to help Afghan refugees arriving in the UK by providing support so they could “rebuild their lives, find work, pursue education and integrate into their local communities”.
However, a widespread lack of housing means hotels have been commandeered as emergency temporary accommodation for 7,000 Afghan refugees, with Home Office officials admitting that some will be held in them for months.
Already some refugees have had enough. One doctor, who has been working with the newly arrived Afghans for weeks but who requested anonymity, said: “I’ve had a few patients telling me they want to go home. One guy, who was 67, kept saying: ‘I can’t take this any more. I have to get out of this [hotel] room.’ ” The GP, an Afghan who fled the country in 2000 when the Taliban were previously in power, added: “Another said: ‘I just want my freedom from the hotel.’ I had to put him on medication, and his wife, because they were so upset.”
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/ ... rm-welcome
I expected something like this in the US where a large number of Afghan Refugees have to live in Army Quarters (sometimes for years) until they are "processed". I don't know how many are waiting in Qatar, Uganda, Albania, Germany, and many other places where the US dumped their rescued Afghans temporarily. How bad must it get for a refugee that was airlifted out of this Hell hole Afghanistan which is now ruled by the Taliban ?
Launched by Boris Johnson on 29 August to help Afghan refugees arriving in the UK by providing support so they could “rebuild their lives, find work, pursue education and integrate into their local communities”.
However, a widespread lack of housing means hotels have been commandeered as emergency temporary accommodation for 7,000 Afghan refugees, with Home Office officials admitting that some will be held in them for months.
Already some refugees have had enough. One doctor, who has been working with the newly arrived Afghans for weeks but who requested anonymity, said: “I’ve had a few patients telling me they want to go home. One guy, who was 67, kept saying: ‘I can’t take this any more. I have to get out of this [hotel] room.’ ” The GP, an Afghan who fled the country in 2000 when the Taliban were previously in power, added: “Another said: ‘I just want my freedom from the hotel.’ I had to put him on medication, and his wife, because they were so upset.”
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/ ... rm-welcome
If they are afraid of the Taliban then they would be able to endure a few months living in a hotel in the UK. These are some entitled Afghans. Of course they have every right to feel entitled as the English are ultimately responsible for most of the problems in their country. They actually do deserve the red carpet from the British considering the brutality and humiliations they had to endure at the hands of the British.Expatissimo wrote: ↑Sun Oct 10, 2021 1:19 am‘Send us home,’ beg Afghan refugees stuck in UK hotels Operation "Warm Welcome in the UK" not much apreciated.
I expected something like this in the US where a large number of Afghan Refugees have to live in Army Quarters (sometimes for years) until they are "processed". I don't know how many are waiting in Qatar, Uganda, Albania, Germany, and many other places where the US dumped their rescued Afghans temporarily. How bad must it get for a refugee that was airlifted out of this Hell hole Afghanistan which is now ruled by the Taliban ?
Launched by Boris Johnson on 29 August to help Afghan refugees arriving in the UK by providing support so they could “rebuild their lives, find work, pursue education and integrate into their local communities”.
However, a widespread lack of housing means hotels have been commandeered as emergency temporary accommodation for 7,000 Afghan refugees, with Home Office officials admitting that some will be held in them for months.
Already some refugees have had enough. One doctor, who has been working with the newly arrived Afghans for weeks but who requested anonymity, said: “I’ve had a few patients telling me they want to go home. One guy, who was 67, kept saying: ‘I can’t take this any more. I have to get out of this [hotel] room.’ ” The GP, an Afghan who fled the country in 2000 when the Taliban were previously in power, added: “Another said: ‘I just want my freedom from the hotel.’ I had to put him on medication, and his wife, because they were so upset.”
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/ ... rm-welcome
Rudyard KiplingWhen you're wounded and left on Afghanistan's plains, and the women come out to cut up what remains, jest roll to your rifle and blow out your brains and go to your gawd like a soldier.
@ Harold. The Facts speak for themself:
Fury over £169 refund as guests branded 'racist' after complaining about refugees at hotel
TWO TEESSIDE residents have expressed their anger after being denied a refund for their £169-per-person stay at a Scarborough hotel currently housing Afghan refugees.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/15032 ... n-refugees
The Afghan Refugees have another perspective:
Afghan refugees in UK warn of ‘prison-like’ hotel rules
Dozens of families prevented from leaving hotel accommodation despite completing quarantine
A large group of Afghans staying at a London Heathrow hotel were warned to avoid going outside unless escorted by security guards
LONDON: Afghan nationals evacuated to the UK in the wake of the Taliban takeover of the country have reportedly been prevented from leaving their temporary hotel accommodation after completing mandatory quarantine periods.
Some have described the situation as “like being in prison.”
A large group of Afghans staying at a London Heathrow hotel were warned to avoid going outside unless escorted by security guards and only for a maximum 20-minute walk for exercise.
The security policy applies to all Afghan quarantine hotels in Britain, government sources told The Times newspaper.
Bahram, a 35-year-old former Afghan public sector worker, is staying at the Heathrow hotel and was meant to be provided with accommodation when his quarantine period ended last week. But his family, including four children, have not been allowed outside except for walks.
He said: “Our children are depressed and frustrated and we don’t know what’s going on.
“We don’t have any accommodation to go to and the procedure is not fair. People who came to the hotel after us were transferred before us.”
But a security source at the hotel said: “If someone wants to go out and buy a cigarette we will not allow it. They can exercise for fresh air and call us any time.”
The UK Department of Health and Social Care has sent a communications letter to Afghans in the hotel saying that they would be transported “out of quarantine” and could also leave if they had other housing.
A spokesperson for the hotel said that managers had chosen to follow government guidelines regarding the Afghan refugees.
“It includes rules on exercise breaks away from rooms. The safety and wellbeing of guests and employees is always our first priority,” they said.
https://www.arabnews.com/node/1925781/world
Nobody is honest enough to tell them (Refugees) that they're really not wanted at all
Fury over £169 refund as guests branded 'racist' after complaining about refugees at hotel
TWO TEESSIDE residents have expressed their anger after being denied a refund for their £169-per-person stay at a Scarborough hotel currently housing Afghan refugees.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/15032 ... n-refugees
The Afghan Refugees have another perspective:
Afghan refugees in UK warn of ‘prison-like’ hotel rules
Dozens of families prevented from leaving hotel accommodation despite completing quarantine
A large group of Afghans staying at a London Heathrow hotel were warned to avoid going outside unless escorted by security guards
LONDON: Afghan nationals evacuated to the UK in the wake of the Taliban takeover of the country have reportedly been prevented from leaving their temporary hotel accommodation after completing mandatory quarantine periods.
Some have described the situation as “like being in prison.”
A large group of Afghans staying at a London Heathrow hotel were warned to avoid going outside unless escorted by security guards and only for a maximum 20-minute walk for exercise.
The security policy applies to all Afghan quarantine hotels in Britain, government sources told The Times newspaper.
Bahram, a 35-year-old former Afghan public sector worker, is staying at the Heathrow hotel and was meant to be provided with accommodation when his quarantine period ended last week. But his family, including four children, have not been allowed outside except for walks.
He said: “Our children are depressed and frustrated and we don’t know what’s going on.
“We don’t have any accommodation to go to and the procedure is not fair. People who came to the hotel after us were transferred before us.”
But a security source at the hotel said: “If someone wants to go out and buy a cigarette we will not allow it. They can exercise for fresh air and call us any time.”
The UK Department of Health and Social Care has sent a communications letter to Afghans in the hotel saying that they would be transported “out of quarantine” and could also leave if they had other housing.
A spokesperson for the hotel said that managers had chosen to follow government guidelines regarding the Afghan refugees.
“It includes rules on exercise breaks away from rooms. The safety and wellbeing of guests and employees is always our first priority,” they said.
https://www.arabnews.com/node/1925781/world
Nobody is honest enough to tell them (Refugees) that they're really not wanted at all
The Afghans in USA are being accommodated on military bases.
Perhaps a new generation of mujahideen for Xinjiang
Perhaps a new generation of mujahideen for Xinjiang
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Bongs,
I said it before, and i'll say it again.
You cannot force a Country to be civilised over a few years, especially when religion is in the beliefs mix.
Why focking bother?
#MilitarySpending
#Oil
I said it before, and i'll say it again.
You cannot force a Country to be civilised over a few years, especially when religion is in the beliefs mix.
Why focking bother?
#MilitarySpending
#Oil
"I don't care what the people are thinking, i ain't drunk i'm just drinking"
Thousands of Afghan evacuees leave US military bases for new homes
Washington Examiner
Thousands of Afghan evacuees leave US military bases for new homes
Mike Brest
Thu, October 21, 2021, 11:15 PM
Thousands of Afghan refugees have left their temporary shelters at military installation bases to receive more permanent housing.
With the help of various non-profit organizations, roughly 6,000 Afghan evacuees have left the eight military housing sites, with another 3,000 U.S. citizens, green card holders, and Afghans with close ties to the United States leaving on their own.
There are still more than 55,000 Afghans at military sites in Indiana, New Jersey, New Mexico, Virginia, and Wisconsin, and roughly half of them are children, according to CBS News. There are also an additional 5,000 evacuees housed at military bases overseas waiting to come to the U.S.
Washington Examiner
Thousands of Afghan evacuees leave US military bases for new homes
Mike Brest
Thu, October 21, 2021, 11:15 PM
Thousands of Afghan refugees have left their temporary shelters at military installation bases to receive more permanent housing.
With the help of various non-profit organizations, roughly 6,000 Afghan evacuees have left the eight military housing sites, with another 3,000 U.S. citizens, green card holders, and Afghans with close ties to the United States leaving on their own.
There are still more than 55,000 Afghans at military sites in Indiana, New Jersey, New Mexico, Virginia, and Wisconsin, and roughly half of them are children, according to CBS News. There are also an additional 5,000 evacuees housed at military bases overseas waiting to come to the U.S.
Cambodians had well developed Refugee skills, dating back to the late '70's, and, for some, running right to the late '90's.
Afghan's have long practice too, since virtually the same time. And, there are many more millions of them. Syrians, closer, but, I'd guess, with less skills at being refugees, arrived at Europe's borders in sufficient numbers to make countries nervous. Now, desperate Afghan's are on the move like never before. At least according to yesterday's New York Times.
No easy fixes, the country, perhaps, was never not broken, but likely The West, will try to tweak things to reduce the exodus. I'd guess the World Food Programme's in country projects will ratchet up soon.
Afghan's have long practice too, since virtually the same time. And, there are many more millions of them. Syrians, closer, but, I'd guess, with less skills at being refugees, arrived at Europe's borders in sufficient numbers to make countries nervous. Now, desperate Afghan's are on the move like never before. At least according to yesterday's New York Times.
No easy fixes, the country, perhaps, was never not broken, but likely The West, will try to tweak things to reduce the exodus. I'd guess the World Food Programme's in country projects will ratchet up soon.