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Kabul evacuations -- echoes of US exit from Saigon?
https://www.bangkokpost.com/world/21648 ... om-saigon-
The latest: First all US troops left at night without any info to it's allied Afghan Troops. I would call that abandoned !
Now the US fears of it's Embassy Staff in Kabul and sends in 3000 US Troops to evacuate it's staff:
I really can't believe that the most powerfull nation in the world with the biggest arsenal of any kind of weapon is yet again defeated by an army of local peasants. Perhaps this would be a good moment for all americans to change course of it's foreign politics and tackle the root of these ongoing wars around the globe at home.
https://www.bangkokpost.com/world/21648 ... om-saigon-
The latest: First all US troops left at night without any info to it's allied Afghan Troops. I would call that abandoned !
Now the US fears of it's Embassy Staff in Kabul and sends in 3000 US Troops to evacuate it's staff:
I really can't believe that the most powerfull nation in the world with the biggest arsenal of any kind of weapon is yet again defeated by an army of local peasants. Perhaps this would be a good moment for all americans to change course of it's foreign politics and tackle the root of these ongoing wars around the globe at home.
Interesting post. I’m intrigued by your last line.
How do you think the US could take the root causes of these wars at home?
I’m not sure I understand what you mean.
How do you think the US could take the root causes of these wars at home?
I’m not sure I understand what you mean.
The US allegedly helped Taliban/Al-Qaeda/Mujahideen against those pesky commie Russians who also failed in Afghanistan.
Vietnam - pesky communism. Let’s start a war.
Korean War - pesky communism. Let’s start a war.
Bay of Pigs, Cuba - pesky communism let’s etc etc
Grenada invasion - pesky Marxism
Etc etc.
Sharia law is pretty brutal especially towards woman but what the fuck has it to do with the USA?
Why don’t they invade UAE, Pakistan or France (for no reason really)?
Vietnam - pesky communism. Let’s start a war.
Korean War - pesky communism. Let’s start a war.
Bay of Pigs, Cuba - pesky communism let’s etc etc
Grenada invasion - pesky Marxism
Etc etc.
Sharia law is pretty brutal especially towards woman but what the fuck has it to do with the USA?
Why don’t they invade UAE, Pakistan or France (for no reason really)?
pew, pew, pew, pew!
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"Sit Deus propitius huic potatori."
ut sint Guinness proxima morientis ori.
tunc cantabunt letius angelorum chori:
"Sit Deus propitius huic potatori."
@Curious2021 (!FPG7VCUZ0w). the us could first tackle their "civil war like" own wars at home. Parallel to that they could focus on "everything but mllitary and war i.e. regime changes" in third world countries like venezuela, iran, north korea and YES even Cambodia.
At ground zero they could also lecture Hollywood about producing MUCH less violent Block Buster Movies that are exported to the world including china (just watch Macau TV Channels) !
Violence has a long history in the US which in my opinion hasn't changed much from it's "Wild West" Image produced by Hollywood.
Lobby Groups are perhaps the US biggest enemy within. People, Politicians in particular can be corrupted. Just look at the legacy of giuliani, trump,ted cruze,etc. The Mob did storm the Capitol "the former beacon of freedom and democracy"... well not anymore. There is Homework to be done before you want to rule the world which as it has been proven over and again the US is incapable of (not that anyone else was/should be able, too)
At ground zero they could also lecture Hollywood about producing MUCH less violent Block Buster Movies that are exported to the world including china (just watch Macau TV Channels) !
Violence has a long history in the US which in my opinion hasn't changed much from it's "Wild West" Image produced by Hollywood.
Lobby Groups are perhaps the US biggest enemy within. People, Politicians in particular can be corrupted. Just look at the legacy of giuliani, trump,ted cruze,etc. The Mob did storm the Capitol "the former beacon of freedom and democracy"... well not anymore. There is Homework to be done before you want to rule the world which as it has been proven over and again the US is incapable of (not that anyone else was/should be able, too)
There’s a lot to disentangle there fella. Im no American, nor an American apologist but I don’t recall the country ever ruling the world. I’m not sure what ‘ruling the world’ even means. It was a dominant superpower for a while but that hardly translates as ruling the world: the existence of competing superpowers is evidence of that.
As for being violent - well perhaps. But most nation states are born of violence. Europe for example. The U.K. too.
I’m afraid you descend into ridiculousness when you ask the authorities to tell Hollywood to tone it down. It’s not important, and it’s not practical. You might as well say that the inherent violence in Shakespeare is a root cause of English colonialism, or that the violence of Ancient Greek tragedy led to the wars between Athens and Sparta.
As for being violent - well perhaps. But most nation states are born of violence. Europe for example. The U.K. too.
I’m afraid you descend into ridiculousness when you ask the authorities to tell Hollywood to tone it down. It’s not important, and it’s not practical. You might as well say that the inherent violence in Shakespeare is a root cause of English colonialism, or that the violence of Ancient Greek tragedy led to the wars between Athens and Sparta.
Today's news....... one step closer to a human catastrophy which seems now unlikely to be avoided.
Taliban capture Afghanistan's Kandahar, Herat; embassies getting staff out
The U.N. World Food Programme sees food shortages in Afghanistan as "quite dire" and worsening, a spokesperson said, adding the situation had all the hallmarks of a humanitarian catastrophe.
Of Afghanistan's major cities, the government still holds Mazar-i-Sharif in the north and Jalalabad, near the Pakistani border in the east, in addition to Kabul.
In response to the Taliban advances, the Pentagon said it would send about 3,000 extra troops within 48 hours to help evacuate U.S. embassy staff.
Britain said it would deploy about 600 troops to help its citizens leave while other embassies and aid groups said they too were getting their people out.
I wonder what happened to the thousands of Afghani that worked for the Allied Troops in Afghanistan. Promises were made by Germany, Britain and the US (perhaps other countries involved made that promise , too). With the speed the Taliban capture one major city after another i believe it's unlikely these people will be able to get out of the country which will be another promise not kept (like Vietnam). The reeducation Program of the Taliban, if there ever will be one that doesn't have body bags involved will be massively different that that of the Vietkong/North Vietnamese Army.
source of first part: https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-paci ... 021-08-13/
Taliban capture Afghanistan's Kandahar, Herat; embassies getting staff out
The U.N. World Food Programme sees food shortages in Afghanistan as "quite dire" and worsening, a spokesperson said, adding the situation had all the hallmarks of a humanitarian catastrophe.
Of Afghanistan's major cities, the government still holds Mazar-i-Sharif in the north and Jalalabad, near the Pakistani border in the east, in addition to Kabul.
In response to the Taliban advances, the Pentagon said it would send about 3,000 extra troops within 48 hours to help evacuate U.S. embassy staff.
Britain said it would deploy about 600 troops to help its citizens leave while other embassies and aid groups said they too were getting their people out.
I wonder what happened to the thousands of Afghani that worked for the Allied Troops in Afghanistan. Promises were made by Germany, Britain and the US (perhaps other countries involved made that promise , too). With the speed the Taliban capture one major city after another i believe it's unlikely these people will be able to get out of the country which will be another promise not kept (like Vietnam). The reeducation Program of the Taliban, if there ever will be one that doesn't have body bags involved will be massively different that that of the Vietkong/North Vietnamese Army.
source of first part: https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-paci ... 021-08-13/
Exciting! Day by day new Afghan cities open to tourism.
The Embassy in Kula Lumpur was always one of the easiest cities to get an Afghan visa, not positive the Malaysia visa situation, but Jetstar flights to KL are $178. Give yourself a week to get the Afghan visa, even though it's quite an efficient little office, they only accept payment through a Maybank account, so you'll need to organize that if you don't have an account.
Flight's to Dubai at $360. Go through customs and around the airport, or catch an infrequent airport bus across the airway to the old, old terminal, where Afghan flights depart from. It's showing it's age, but they do have a duty-free, so no worries. At the moment, KamAir still scheduling flights to Kabul for $256, probably true, and Kandahar or Herat, for $377, or $405 respectively, probably a bit challenging.
Once in Afghanistan, the world's yer oyster!
(Don't forget, if you fly into KAF, to visit the soon to be renamed TLS (Taliban Last Stand), the fairly sprawling yellow building just off the airway. The large American PX is just a stroll away, and you are likely to be able to find some size 13 Nike air shoes at, well free prices. Not sure I'd swim in those KAF lakes just yet, but two or three years on, they should be good to go.)
So many exciting places to visit, and so hard to decide where to go first!
The Embassy in Kula Lumpur was always one of the easiest cities to get an Afghan visa, not positive the Malaysia visa situation, but Jetstar flights to KL are $178. Give yourself a week to get the Afghan visa, even though it's quite an efficient little office, they only accept payment through a Maybank account, so you'll need to organize that if you don't have an account.
Flight's to Dubai at $360. Go through customs and around the airport, or catch an infrequent airport bus across the airway to the old, old terminal, where Afghan flights depart from. It's showing it's age, but they do have a duty-free, so no worries. At the moment, KamAir still scheduling flights to Kabul for $256, probably true, and Kandahar or Herat, for $377, or $405 respectively, probably a bit challenging.
Once in Afghanistan, the world's yer oyster!
(Don't forget, if you fly into KAF, to visit the soon to be renamed TLS (Taliban Last Stand), the fairly sprawling yellow building just off the airway. The large American PX is just a stroll away, and you are likely to be able to find some size 13 Nike air shoes at, well free prices. Not sure I'd swim in those KAF lakes just yet, but two or three years on, they should be good to go.)
So many exciting places to visit, and so hard to decide where to go first!
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In Australia,
60 arrived in June. Also in June there were reports at least 300 more are wanting to go to Australia
In July, Dutton says 100s were brought in to Australia in recent months.
In mid-July this happened …
“<a small number of> Furious veterans have burned their military decorations to protest the federal government's slow response in granting refuge to hundreds of locally engaged Afghanistan staff now facing deadly Taliban reprisals.”
So not sure what the truth of the situation is.
60 arrived in June. Also in June there were reports at least 300 more are wanting to go to Australia
In July, Dutton says 100s were brought in to Australia in recent months.
In mid-July this happened …
“<a small number of> Furious veterans have burned their military decorations to protest the federal government's slow response in granting refuge to hundreds of locally engaged Afghanistan staff now facing deadly Taliban reprisals.”
So not sure what the truth of the situation is.
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Romantic Cambodia is dead and gone. It's with McKinley in the grave.
Now that's good news for the defeated ISIS fighters in Syria and Iraq and beyond that will now simply relable themself and call themself Taliban and get comfortable in their new Home. Bin Laden with the Help of Pakistan and his fellow Saudi got his wish fullfilled after all. The bordering Countries to Afghanistan already feel the heat and close their borders (except Pakistan i believe that is quite happy) now that the Taliban got hold of new weapons, humvees and ammo, even fighter jets. Looks like they can open another wartime museum like in Saigon.
Meanwhile in the EU many countries are against taking in any Afghan Refugees:
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Six EU countries sent a joint letter August 5 to the European Commission warning against halting non-voluntary returns of Afghan migrants, arguing any suspension of deportations would act as a migration magnet and “motivate even more Afghan citizens to leave their home for the EU.”
Germany, Austria, Denmark, Belgium, the Netherlands and Greece signed the letter. “We would like to highlight the urgent need to perform returns, both voluntary and non-voluntary, to Afghanistan,” the interior ministers of the six countries wrote in their collective letter to the Commission. “Stopping returns sends the wrong signal,” they added.
They forgot to add in this report that they also don't want any new ones which will now leave afghanistan in masses.
source:https://www.voanews.com/europe/six-eu-c ... um-seekers
And here they are already moving:
https://news.yahoo.com/thousands-afghan ... 18025.html
Meanwhile in the EU many countries are against taking in any Afghan Refugees:
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Six EU countries sent a joint letter August 5 to the European Commission warning against halting non-voluntary returns of Afghan migrants, arguing any suspension of deportations would act as a migration magnet and “motivate even more Afghan citizens to leave their home for the EU.”
Germany, Austria, Denmark, Belgium, the Netherlands and Greece signed the letter. “We would like to highlight the urgent need to perform returns, both voluntary and non-voluntary, to Afghanistan,” the interior ministers of the six countries wrote in their collective letter to the Commission. “Stopping returns sends the wrong signal,” they added.
They forgot to add in this report that they also don't want any new ones which will now leave afghanistan in masses.
source:https://www.voanews.com/europe/six-eu-c ... um-seekers
And here they are already moving:
https://news.yahoo.com/thousands-afghan ... 18025.html
Should be a great country to pick up some war surplus. Those Humvees L.Lucan look sweet: anti-aircraft gun in the back looks the same they used to have up at Banon, Battambang.
Will they market everything through the Dark Web, or regular Ebay?
Every city and airfield already had big equipment graveyards, tanks, abc's, MIG's of all sorts, now they will cripple in size.
Will they market everything through the Dark Web, or regular Ebay?
Every city and airfield already had big equipment graveyards, tanks, abc's, MIG's of all sorts, now they will cripple in size.
History repeats, echoing through the valleys all the way to Kabul. In Michener's short novel 'Caravans', the protagonist points out Afghanistan ĉan not be defeated.
Essential reading: The graveyard of empires and The Taliban explained
https://thediplomat.com/2017/06/why-is- ... f-empires/
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/7/2 ... -explained
Essential reading: The graveyard of empires and The Taliban explained
https://thediplomat.com/2017/06/why-is- ... f-empires/
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/7/2 ... -explained
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What a predictable? nightmare it's become there.
Canada has planned to resettle 20,000 vulnerable people from Afghanistan already.
Between 2015 and 2020 75,000 Syrians were permitted to resettle in Canada. There have been some great success stories with the Syrians who immigrated to Canada and their integration to society but time will tell how well the Afgans get on that. With major Canadian cities being some of the highest cost of living cities in the world to live it's going to be a tough ride for many.
https://www.reuters.com/world/canada-ac ... 021-08-13/
Canada has planned to resettle 20,000 vulnerable people from Afghanistan already.
Between 2015 and 2020 75,000 Syrians were permitted to resettle in Canada. There have been some great success stories with the Syrians who immigrated to Canada and their integration to society but time will tell how well the Afgans get on that. With major Canadian cities being some of the highest cost of living cities in the world to live it's going to be a tough ride for many.
https://www.reuters.com/world/canada-ac ... 021-08-13/
OTTAWA, Aug 13 (Reuters) - Canada plans to resettle more than 20,000 vulnerable Afghans including women leaders, human rights workers and reporters to protect them from Taliban reprisals, Immigration Minister Marco Mendicino said on Friday.
The effort is in addition to an earlier initiative to welcome thousands of Afghans who worked for the Canadian government, such as interpreters, embassy workers and their families, he told a news conference.
"As the Taliban continues to take over more of Afghanistan, many more Afghans' lives are under increasing threat," he said. He did not provide a timetable.
Defense Minister Harjit Sajjan said some Canadian special forces were in Afghanistan taking part in the relocation effort but gave no details.
"The challenges on the ground are quite immense," he said.
Canada's new plan would focus on those who are particularly vulnerable, including women leaders, human rights defenders, reporters, persecuted religious minorities and members of the gay and lesbian community, Mendicino said.
It covers both people who want to leave Afghanistan and those already in neighboring countries.
The Taliban have seized Afghanistan's second- and third-biggest cities as resistance from government forces crumbled. read more
"We know the situation is dire. It's getting worse by the hour," said Mendicino.
Reporting by David Ljunggren and Steve Scherer Editing by Sonya Hepinstall and Richard Chang