Will Nancy go or won't she?
Will Nancy go or won't she?
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/8/1 ... ing-taiwan
Will Nancy go to Taiwan or not?
And is it an act of deliberate provocation by an old woman hoping to make her mark in history, or a perfectly acceptable visit? Why doesn't Biden go?
Will Nancy go to Taiwan or not?
And is it an act of deliberate provocation by an old woman hoping to make her mark in history, or a perfectly acceptable visit? Why doesn't Biden go?
If she doesn't go, the Indo-pacific is officially under Chinese control. Under Obama the US backed down to Russia in Syria. Under Biden they may back down to China. The beginning of the end...
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djelibabi wrote: ↑Tue Aug 02, 2022 4:42 amhttps://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/8/1 ... ing-taiwan
Will Nancy go to Taiwan or not?
And is it an act of deliberate provocation by an old woman hoping to make her mark in history, or a perfectly acceptable visit? Why doesn't Biden go?
So it is a deliberate act of provocation by an old woman and then you ask why an old man does not take her place.
Do you find " old women " threatening?
Definitely of the opinion that she should go & call their bluff. Nobody likes a bully who comes out with "You better not do xyz or else"... What are they going to do, buzz Taiwan again with a few fighter jets, or sail a bit close to a US vessel in the South China Sea?
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ut sint Guinness proxima morientis ori.
tunc cantabunt letius angelorum chori:
"Sit Deus propitius huic potatori."
Agree, no reason why she shouldn't go. Tbh, I'm a tad surprised China is issuing what is essentially an ultimatum, something more akin to Russian style 'diplomacy'.Spigzy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 02, 2022 10:17 amDefinitely of the opinion that she should go & call their bluff. Nobody likes a bully who comes out with "You better not do xyz or else"... What are they going to do, buzz Taiwan again with a few fighter jets, or sail a bit close to a US vessel in the South China Sea?
The Chinese people are ready for war. They have been bullied and oppressed by the racist west for centuries and this visit is another provocation and another slap in the face of 1.4 billion Chinese. The Chinese military is rapidly modernizing and in some areas has already exceeded the racist imperial powers.
The liberation of Taiwan will probably happen in this decade because of the hubris and stupidity of western politicians.
The liberation of Taiwan will probably happen in this decade because of the hubris and stupidity of western politicians.
They may serve as a warning to other authoritarian states if they act on their threats.Harold wrote: ↑Tue Aug 02, 2022 4:17 pmThe Chinese people are ready for war. They have been bullied and oppressed by the racist west for centuries and this visit is another provocation and another slap in the face of 1.4 billion Chinese. The Chinese military is rapidly modernizing and in some areas has already exceeded the racist imperial powers.
The liberation of Taiwan will probably happen in this decade because of the hubris and stupidity of western politicians.
They are utterly dependent on trade with Europe and USA.
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Haha, Xi's false economy is collapsing and like politicians all over the planet, he uses a foriegn enemy and centuries old slights to draw attention away from his short comings.Harold wrote: ↑Tue Aug 02, 2022 4:17 pmThe Chinese people are ready for war. They have been bullied and oppressed by the racist west for centuries and this visit is another provocation and another slap in the face of 1.4 billion Chinese. The Chinese military is rapidly modernizing and in some areas has already exceeded the racist imperial powers.
The liberation of Taiwan will probably happen in this decade because of the hubris and stupidity of western politicians.
I find it the timing of the visit pretty stupid.
It could have made sense during Trump or after the Ukrainian situation is mostly solved.
Or if it was a surprise visit.
This now feels like shit stirring for no real gain.
It could have made sense during Trump or after the Ukrainian situation is mostly solved.
Or if it was a surprise visit.
This now feels like shit stirring for no real gain.
The Chinese aren't "utterly dependent" on trade with the west but their quality of life would take a major hit if there was a falling out. They survived as an impoverished autarky for decades under Mao. The country is far better off nowadays than it was after WWII but the people have far higher expectations and the Party promises every Chinese citizen the right to live a decent life. The Party has also taught Chinese citizens about their position in the world and the importance of Taiwan. It is an existential problem for the Chinese and every Chinese I've talked to knows this fact. The Chinese will fight like hell and tighten their belts if it comes to that because they understand that the issue over Taiwan is fundamentally about whether or not Chinese people have a right to exist.Guest wrote: ↑Tue Aug 02, 2022 5:10 pmThey may serve as a warning to other authoritarian states if they act on their threats.Harold wrote: ↑Tue Aug 02, 2022 4:17 pmThe Chinese people are ready for war. They have been bullied and oppressed by the racist west for centuries and this visit is another provocation and another slap in the face of 1.4 billion Chinese. The Chinese military is rapidly modernizing and in some areas has already exceeded the racist imperial powers.
The liberation of Taiwan will probably happen in this decade because of the hubris and stupidity of western politicians.
They are utterly dependent on trade with Europe and USA.
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How does this relatively small island mainly populated by ethnic Chinese have any bearing on the Chinese people's right to exist?
I'm transiting through Taipei tomorrow, not the best timing.
I'm transiting through Taipei tomorrow, not the best timing.
Romantic Cambodia is dead and gone. It's with McKinley in the grave.
I was underwhelmed by Taiwan. I wanted to like it but it was just a bit dull.
Apart from the 101 tower some nice mountains and an impressive pagoda that was it. Taipei was really drab apart from the business district/downtown.
China can have it. Maybe they’ll inject some much needed culture.
Apart from the 101 tower some nice mountains and an impressive pagoda that was it. Taipei was really drab apart from the business district/downtown.
China can have it. Maybe they’ll inject some much needed culture.
pew, pew, pew, pew!
My dads friend was kidnapped along with a group of other foreign oil workers (or whatever they were) in the 70s in Africa (I think. Might be Middle East).Lucky Lucan wrote: ↑Tue Aug 02, 2022 11:54 pmHow does this relatively small island mainly populated by ethnic Chinese have any bearing on the Chinese people's right to exist?
I'm transiting through Taipei tomorrow, not the best timing.
They separated all the non westerners and let them go then got everyone’s passport. My dads friend (Irish) and a Luxembourgian were let go!
Even despot villains love the Irish!
You’ll be fine.
pew, pew, pew, pew!