Argue about Ukraine/NATO/NWO etc
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CNN and Fox? Do you realize that most people on here are not American and don't watch them? Facts from both sides? Like how Russia wasn't going to invade, how it was just a military operation, how the west is trying to destroy Russia etc? When one side is constantly lying out of their teeth people tend not to believe their line anymore.
Romantic Cambodia is dead and gone. It's with McKinley in the grave.
So, you don't think America has been guilty of lying through its teeth, but you believe their line now?Lucky Lucan wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 7:32 amWhen one side is constantly lying out of their teeth people tend not to believe their line anymore.
As an Irishman, did you also believe that the British government were also innocent of lying through their teeth constantly?
Do you believe the govt.-UK controlled media the BBC's narrative? At what stage did it become truth and not lies?
Both sides consistently lie. Hard to accept that? Nobody's asking you to accept the Russian narrative. I'm merely suggesting you read BOTH sides. There's absolutely no reason for anybody to feel threatened by that, unless deep down, they know or suspect the truth is not what MSM is telling us.
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What makes you think you are the only person here who ever thought of looking at different sources? You aren't, so drop the BS MSM line.
Romantic Cambodia is dead and gone. It's with McKinley in the grave.
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So by researching on RT you have purified yourself of western bias.drazilovich wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 5:10 amExactly. This reinforces my view.Anthony's Wiener wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 12:33 pmShow me a westerner, an easterner, a Muslim, Jew, Christian or a Bahaii that does not have a bias.
Since we KNOW that many people are biased, should we not, therefore, redouble our efforts to examine both sides, whilst being aware that the truth often lies somewhere in the middle?
I know this is anathema to the stooges of CNN, Fox and the BBC, it's much easier to go with the flow than to form one's own unpopular opinion based on facts gleaned from both sides.
How are you making out absolving yourself of your male bias, your "white privilege" bias, your "straight" bias and of course the age bias we all have?
5 cops in Memphis beat a man to death. There is video, you may consider me a stooge if I saw it on CNN or BBC and made my own opinion without first fully understanding the murderers point of view and I can live
with that.
A guy walks into a school in Texas and shoots 30 kids dead. Do you believe that knowing the gunman' s motivation, his perspective, that you would be wrong to condemn the act?
Kindly show me where I even suggested that EVERYTHING the BBC/Fox reports is untrue. I am referring to the overwhelming and obvious bias in the Russia-phobic reports, and the lies that NATO had absolutely nothing to do with provoking Russia.Anthony's Wiener wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 9:12 am
So by researching on RT you have purified yourself of western bias.
No, I never even suggested that, and you know it. I suggested we get BOTH sides of the story> Do you understand what BOTH means?
How are you making out absolving yourself of your male bias, your "white privilege" bias, your "straight" bias and of course the age bias we all have?
Did you just assume my gender, race AND age? Isn't assumption the foundation of bias?
5 cops in Memphis beat a man to death. There is video, you may consider me a stooge if I saw it on CNN or BBC and made my own opinion without first fully understanding the murderers point of view and I can live
with that.
A guy walks into a school in Texas and shoots 30 kids dead. Do you believe that knowing the gunman' s motivation, his perspective, that you would be wrong to condemn the act?
I've seen better arguments from a motodop.
Pathetic attempt at deflection, to be honest.
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Great use of colour and capitalization, it really adds substance to your opinion.drazilovich wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 9:55 amKindly show me where I even suggested that EVERYTHING the BBC/Fox reports is untrue. I am referring to the overwhelming and obvious bias in the Russia-phobic reports, and the lies that NATO had absolutely nothing to do with provoking Russia.Anthony's Wiener wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 9:12 am
So by researching on RT you have purified yourself of western bias.
No, I never even suggested that, and you know it. I suggested we get BOTH sides of the story> Do you understand what BOTH means?
How are you making out absolving yourself of your male bias, your "white privilege" bias, your "straight" bias and of course the age bias we all have?
Did you just assume my gender, race AND age? Isn't assumption the foundation of bias?
5 cops in Memphis beat a man to death. There is video, you may consider me a stooge if I saw it on CNN or BBC and made my own opinion without first fully understanding the murderers point of view and I can live
with that.
A guy walks into a school in Texas and shoots 30 kids dead. Do you believe that knowing the gunman' s motivation, his perspective, that you would be wrong to condemn the act?
I've seen better arguments from a motodop.
Pathetic attempt at deflection, to be honest.
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Yes, I assumed you are white, male, western and over the age of 30. You may well be none of the above, but then you would have a female, person of colour, gay and millennial bias. We all have biases.
No you did not suggest BBC or Fox reports only untruths, simply that stooges watch them.
I am sure you have seen better arguments from a motodop, likely over less than a dollar. Do you think if I were to use more vivid text and bold/ italics it would improve my game?
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I find vivid text and bold obsequious; capitals too loud. Italics, now there is a way to exhibit disdain, as if you found a concept akin to something the cat dragged in.Anthony's Wiener wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 11:06 amDo you think if I were to use more vivid text and bold/ italics it would improve my game?
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Anthony's Wiener wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 11:06 amGreat use of colour and capitalization, it really adds substance to your opinion.drazilovich wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 9:55 amKindly show me where I even suggested that EVERYTHING the BBC/Fox reports is untrue. I am referring to the overwhelming and obvious bias in the Russia-phobic reports, and the lies that NATO had absolutely nothing to do with provoking Russia.Anthony's Wiener wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 9:12 am
So by researching on RT you have purified yourself of western bias.
No, I never even suggested that, and you know it. I suggested we get BOTH sides of the story> Do you understand what BOTH means?
How are you making out absolving yourself of your male bias, your "white privilege" bias, your "straight" bias and of course the age bias we all have?
Did you just assume my gender, race AND age? Isn't assumption the foundation of bias?
5 cops in Memphis beat a man to death. There is video, you may consider me a stooge if I saw it on CNN or BBC and made my own opinion without first fully understanding the murderers point of view and I can live
with that.
A guy walks into a school in Texas and shoots 30 kids dead. Do you believe that knowing the gunman' s motivation, his perspective, that you would be wrong to condemn the act?
I've seen better arguments from a motodop.
Pathetic attempt at deflection, to be honest.
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Yes, I assumed you are white, male, western and over the age of 30. You may well be none of the above, but then you would have a female, person of colour, gay and millennial bias. We all have biases.
No you did not suggest BBC or Fox reports only untruths, simply that stooges watch them.
I am sure you have seen better arguments from a motodop, likely over less than a dollar. Do you think if I were to use more vivid text and bold/ italics it would improve my game?
He’s white, male, fat and over 60. From white Rhodesia or Namibia or somewhere like that.
He’s also incredibly bitter at the utter failure of his life - a life where he had the utmost advantages early on including educated middle class expat parents, a private school education etc - and yet six decades on he finds himself in poverty, a broken English teacher in Cambodia.
No wonder he is so angry and so keen to adopt a contrarian view. His idea is that the western capitalist system has failed him. It hasn’t. He has failed himself but he can’t see that.
Accordingly he clings to nonsense like antisemitism, pro-Russian stances. He thinks it makes him look interesting and thoughtful. It doesn’t. It makes him look sad.
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Both Hitler and Putin said they wouldn't invade their neighbor's then ponied up another lie afterword .Lucky Lucan wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 7:32 amCNN and Fox? Do you realize that most people on here are not American and don't watch them? Facts from both sides? Like how Russia wasn't going to invade, how it was just a military operation, how the west is trying to destroy Russia etc? When one side is constantly lying out of their teeth people tend not to believe their line anymore.
Freedom is not a state. It is an act. It is not some enchanted garden perched high on a distant plateau.. Freedom is a continuous action we all must take, and each generation must do its part to create an even more fair, more just society.-John Lewis
You do realise that just about every politician talks in the same way. This type of western propaganda is exactly why free thinkers are sceptical of the Western narrative.
West: Putin always lies, whereas we are the bastion of truth and honesty.
West: Putin always lies, whereas we are the bastion of truth and honesty.
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The ICC issued an arrest warrant against Vladimir Putin & Russia’s Children’s Ombudsman Maria Lvova-Belova in relation to the movement of children from Ukraine to Russia.
Needless to say, opinions vary, however this adds an additional dimension to the diplomatic space. Russia is likely to use the ruling to promote the sense of an established biased international order, whilst Ukraine will use it to promote the accusation of state-approved cultural genocide.
Russia nor the US recognize the authority of the ICC.
Needless to say, opinions vary, however this adds an additional dimension to the diplomatic space. Russia is likely to use the ruling to promote the sense of an established biased international order, whilst Ukraine will use it to promote the accusation of state-approved cultural genocide.
Russia nor the US recognize the authority of the ICC.
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The International Criminal Court (ICC) has issued an arrest warrant for Russian President Vladimir Putin.
The court alleges he is responsible for war crimes, and has focused its claims on the unlawful deportation of children from Ukraine to Russia.
It says the crimes were committed in Ukraine from 24 February 2022 - when Russia launched its full-scale invasion.
Moscow has denied the allegations and labelled the warrants as "outrageous".
It is highly unlikely that much will come of the move - the ICC has no powers to arrest suspects, and can only exercise jurisdiction within its member countries - and Russia is not one of them.
However it could affect the president in other ways, such as being unable to travel internationally.
In a statement, the ICC said it had reasonable grounds to believe Mr Putin committed the criminal acts directly, as well as working with others. It also accused him of failing to use his presidential powers to stop children being deported.
Russia's commissioner for children's rights, Maria Lvova-Belova, is also wanted by the ICC for the same crimes.
In the past, she has spoken openly of efforts to indoctrinate Ukrainian children taken to Russia.
Last September, Ms Lvova-Belova complained that some children removed from the city of Mariupol "spoke badly about the [Russian President], said awful things and sang the Ukrainian anthem."
She has also claimed to have adopted a 15-year-old boy from Mariupol.
The ICC said it initially considered keeping the arrest warrants a secret, but decided to make them public in the event that it stopped further crimes from being committed.
ICC prosecutor Karim Khan told the BBC: "children can't be treated as the spoils of war, they can't be deported".
"This type of crime doesn't need one to be a lawyer, one needs to be human being to know how egregious it is," he said.
https://www.bbc.com/news
The court alleges he is responsible for war crimes, and has focused its claims on the unlawful deportation of children from Ukraine to Russia.
It says the crimes were committed in Ukraine from 24 February 2022 - when Russia launched its full-scale invasion.
Moscow has denied the allegations and labelled the warrants as "outrageous".
It is highly unlikely that much will come of the move - the ICC has no powers to arrest suspects, and can only exercise jurisdiction within its member countries - and Russia is not one of them.
However it could affect the president in other ways, such as being unable to travel internationally.
In a statement, the ICC said it had reasonable grounds to believe Mr Putin committed the criminal acts directly, as well as working with others. It also accused him of failing to use his presidential powers to stop children being deported.
Russia's commissioner for children's rights, Maria Lvova-Belova, is also wanted by the ICC for the same crimes.
In the past, she has spoken openly of efforts to indoctrinate Ukrainian children taken to Russia.
Last September, Ms Lvova-Belova complained that some children removed from the city of Mariupol "spoke badly about the [Russian President], said awful things and sang the Ukrainian anthem."
She has also claimed to have adopted a 15-year-old boy from Mariupol.
The ICC said it initially considered keeping the arrest warrants a secret, but decided to make them public in the event that it stopped further crimes from being committed.
ICC prosecutor Karim Khan told the BBC: "children can't be treated as the spoils of war, they can't be deported".
"This type of crime doesn't need one to be a lawyer, one needs to be human being to know how egregious it is," he said.
https://www.bbc.com/news
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