Are British poor people much more likely to travel to Cambodia than American poor people?
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Are British poor people much more likely to travel to Cambodia than American poor people?
I'm surprised by how many "stranded" Brits there are who travel to Cambodia despite having no financial safety net if things go wrong.
I considered the UK and USA to be equally wealthy countries. And Cambodia gets 40% more tourists from the USA than from the UK.
Why are we hearing so much more about stranded, broke Brits than stranded, broke Americans?
Do Americans not travel abroad until they are older and financially well established, whereas a British person with $3000 to his name will spend all of that money on a trip to Southeast Asia and plan to return penniless?
Or is it because British people are dependent on bank cards (money actually in their accounts) whereas an American whose flights keep getting cancelled can just keep buying more tickets using a credit card with a huge credit limit like many Americans have?
Is it possible there are just us many stranded Americans as stranded Brits but the Americans aren't complaining and moaning about it and the American press isn't publicizing their plight like the British tabloids do?
I considered the UK and USA to be equally wealthy countries. And Cambodia gets 40% more tourists from the USA than from the UK.
Why are we hearing so much more about stranded, broke Brits than stranded, broke Americans?
Do Americans not travel abroad until they are older and financially well established, whereas a British person with $3000 to his name will spend all of that money on a trip to Southeast Asia and plan to return penniless?
Or is it because British people are dependent on bank cards (money actually in their accounts) whereas an American whose flights keep getting cancelled can just keep buying more tickets using a credit card with a huge credit limit like many Americans have?
Is it possible there are just us many stranded Americans as stranded Brits but the Americans aren't complaining and moaning about it and the American press isn't publicizing their plight like the British tabloids do?
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I'm not sure where the sense of entitlement comes from. I think many British people still believe that their former empire still extends beyond economics and trade. I'm from Ireland where we know that we are on our own once we depart those home shores. It's bad enough there, why would it be anything special for those of us who left?
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Thinking about this a little more, I see that last year about 177,000 Americans visited Cambodia and 117,000 British citizens visited Cambodia. About 1.2 million Americans visited Thailand, and about 1 millions Brits visited Thailand.
But the U.S. population is 5X the population of the UK.
This means that a British citizen is about 3X more likely to visit Cambodia than an American is and 4X more likely to visit Thailand than an American is.
Travel to Southeast Asia is more popular among the "masses" in the UK, including the working classes, the tradesman, the uneducated, the "lager louts." Whereas in the USA, the lower classes never even bother to get passports. Travel to Southeast Asia is something only done by a select few Americans, and they tend to be wealthier.
When poor and middle class Americans want to travel and visit a beach, they go to Florida, or Mexico, or Hawaii. When poor and middle class Brits want to travel and visit a beach, they go to Spain or spend all their money on a trip to Southeast Asia.
That's why when the shit hits the fan in Cambodia, the Americans can just buy another plane ticket home whereas many Brits are stuck and have no money to buy another plane ticket.
But the U.S. population is 5X the population of the UK.
This means that a British citizen is about 3X more likely to visit Cambodia than an American is and 4X more likely to visit Thailand than an American is.
Travel to Southeast Asia is more popular among the "masses" in the UK, including the working classes, the tradesman, the uneducated, the "lager louts." Whereas in the USA, the lower classes never even bother to get passports. Travel to Southeast Asia is something only done by a select few Americans, and they tend to be wealthier.
When poor and middle class Americans want to travel and visit a beach, they go to Florida, or Mexico, or Hawaii. When poor and middle class Brits want to travel and visit a beach, they go to Spain or spend all their money on a trip to Southeast Asia.
That's why when the shit hits the fan in Cambodia, the Americans can just buy another plane ticket home whereas many Brits are stuck and have no money to buy another plane ticket.
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Perhaps the only important difference is between their respective embassies.
If you go to the US embassy, not only are you seen, but you are also helped.
Americans live more in a nanny state in that way than the British ( and Irish, Reg) do, which is kind of ironic when you listen to many Americans talk about self reliance and keeping government out their life. Then when the shit hits the fan it all changes, and they go running to their government for help.
Meanwhile, they've bought up the world's entire supply of Spam. Which they are very welcome to.
If you go to the US embassy, not only are you seen, but you are also helped.
Americans live more in a nanny state in that way than the British ( and Irish, Reg) do, which is kind of ironic when you listen to many Americans talk about self reliance and keeping government out their life. Then when the shit hits the fan it all changes, and they go running to their government for help.
Meanwhile, they've bought up the world's entire supply of Spam. Which they are very welcome to.
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No, both embassies have a policy of "Make an appointment for non-emergency services"kungfufighter wrote: ↑Sun Apr 12, 2020 4:59 am
If you go to the US embassy, not only are you seen, but you are also helped.
The American dude in Suriname expected he'd be able to stroll into the US embassy and have a sit down meeting about his desire to fly to the USA with three Cambodians. They refused to meet him and told him where he could find the visa forms online.
It seems to me that if only 5% of Americans have ever traveled to southeast Asia, but 25% of Brits, and both countries are equally wealthy, then you've got a lot more Brits traveling to Southeast Asia who really can't afford it and who get stuck in a jam if things go wrong.
I don't think the USA arranged free door to door transport for Americans from their homes/hotels in Cambodia to their homes in the USA, which is what the British "stranded" have been demanding. I could be wrong though.
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Yes, I think you're wrong..Do they answer their emails, for instance? And, you missed my point about Americans talking tall about self-reliance then scurrying off to their embassy when they realise they're actually not that self-reliant at all.gavinmac wrote: ↑Sun Apr 12, 2020 5:10 amNo, both embassies have a policy of "Make an appointment for non-emergency services"kungfufighter wrote: ↑Sun Apr 12, 2020 4:59 am
If you go to the US embassy, not only are you seen, but you are also helped.
The American dude in Suriname expected he'd be able to stroll into the US embassy and have a sit down meeting about his desire to fly to the USA with three Cambodians. They refused to meet him and told him where he could find the visa forms online.
It seems to me that if only 5% of Americans have ever traveled to southeast Asia, but 25% of Brits, and both countries are equally wealthy, then you've got a lot more Brits traveling to Southeast Asia who really can't afford it and who get stuck in a jam if things go wrong.
I don't think the USA arranged free door to door transport for Americans from their homes/hotels in Cambodia to their homes in the USA, which is what the British "stranded" have been demanding. I could be wrong though.
According to Miguelito, the British embassy are more likely to sort out the Cambodians before their own citizens.
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I forgot to add that most Americans in Cambodia come from Florida, which totally blows your argument out of the water.
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I don't make a habit of asking everyone where they are from, but in my 16 years of frequenting Cambodia, I can only recall meeting one American from Florida.kungfufighter wrote: ↑Sun Apr 12, 2020 5:39 amI forgot to add that most Americans in Cambodia come from Florida, which totally blows your argument out of the water.
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If I were Gavin Mac, I would likely link you to a few articles about, now.Kpal wrote: ↑Sun Apr 12, 2020 6:06 amI don't make a habit of asking everyone where they are from, but in my 16 years of frequenting Cambodia, I can only recall meeting one American from Florida.kungfufighter wrote: ↑Sun Apr 12, 2020 5:39 amI forgot to add that most Americans in Cambodia come from Florida, which totally blows your argument out of the water.
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Travel enriches and broadens the mind. Which makes perfect sense when you consider the average American does not own a passport.
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Your hypothesis seems sound.gavinmac wrote: ↑Sun Apr 12, 2020 5:10 amNo, both embassies have a policy of "Make an appointment for non-emergency services"kungfufighter wrote: ↑Sun Apr 12, 2020 4:59 am
If you go to the US embassy, not only are you seen, but you are also helped.
The American dude in Suriname expected he'd be able to stroll into the US embassy and have a sit down meeting about his desire to fly to the USA with three Cambodians. They refused to meet him and told him where he could find the visa forms online.
It seems to me that if only 5% of Americans have ever traveled to southeast Asia, but 25% of Brits, and both countries are equally wealthy, then you've got a lot more Brits traveling to Southeast Asia who really can't afford it and who get stuck in a jam if things go wrong.
I don't think the USA arranged free door to door transport for Americans from their homes/hotels in Cambodia to their homes in the USA, which is what the British "stranded" have been demanding. I could be wrong though.
At first I thought your were shit stirring... But yeah I could believe that poorer Brits are more likely to travel than yanks.
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