20 Approved Schools to Reopen
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Should start after the belated KNY holiday, probably around one month from now. I have not checked the exact dates yet with Pubert's school, as I think things are kinda a moving target this year. Last year his school started around the 10th of August and should have run until about end of the first week of June.
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Why are the gods such vicious cunts?
Where is the god of tits and wine?
Why are the gods such vicious cunts?
Where is the god of tits and wine?
I think they are all a bit different. Our boys' starts back beginning of September, but I know that some start earlier in August.
I suggested a while back that they should have broken up early this year, taking June and July for hols, rather than July and August, and in doing so reduce the amount of online lessons.
I suggested a while back that they should have broken up early this year, taking June and July for hols, rather than July and August, and in doing so reduce the amount of online lessons.
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TheGrimReaper wrote: ↑Mon Sep 02, 2019 1:45 pmSlavedog, you do not belong on this forum as you talk too much sense.
Was told by a sauce who was in the big meeting yesterday with the school heads that some of the schools on that list paid $50,000 to get on that list. That is probably money wasted now due to the testing requirements.
If they paid 50k to get on the list then they can pay the 130 to get the health checks done
$50,000 hurts less than the 50% discounts some of them have been giving to keep the kids enrolled.
What is $50,000 for ISPP for example, 3 students?
What is $50,000 for ISPP for example, 3 students?
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More like 2. However they have huge overheads.
Romantic Cambodia is dead and gone. It's with McKinley in the grave.
Western, AIA, Beltei (24+ campuses), Westline all missing. Strange.
the Covid thing has exposed just how overextended credit was for most schools.They ran for 10+ years making a huge profit and then go bang after 6 months of reduced income?
The growth of the economy qt 7% plus for so long fooled people into thinking it would never end. None of us thought a virus would bring it, but here we are.
MoEYS needs to regulate schools budgets and perhaps create a compulsory savings plan for the lean times.
The growth of the economy qt 7% plus for so long fooled people into thinking it would never end. None of us thought a virus would bring it, but here we are.
MoEYS needs to regulate schools budgets and perhaps create a compulsory savings plan for the lean times.
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These are language schools not Internationally recognized schools despite what they the schools say. Home of we the tefler.wacko wrote: ↑Thu Jul 23, 2020 7:48 pmWestern, AIA, Beltei (24+ campuses), Westline all missing. Strange.
k440, something to do when you're pissed.
ACE too IS just a language school, but with their history, rich and powerful student body (parents), and international credibility and connections they should have some pull. Why couldn't they get on the list? Who decided they deserved the recent bad press? Was the bad press primarily published to stop ACE (and maybe the Oz Embassy?) complaining about lobbying hard and then getting nothing?
IELTS is no doubt slower, in Cambodia and worldwide, but does anyone know if ACE/IDP and or Springboard were running tests through the school closure? How about small IELTS pop courses?
What will be the first language schools to open? Has anyone heard any speculative dates for when 2nd tier opening will be IF all goes well with this first group?
Min. of Social Action has been, in theory at least, running vocational training for Garment staff since Feb. Might language, computer, and other part-time "skills" schools be as/more controlled by them than by MOEYS? Anyone know if the Don Bosco vocational schools are open or closed? What about CamEd? Govt training programs?
IELTS is no doubt slower, in Cambodia and worldwide, but does anyone know if ACE/IDP and or Springboard were running tests through the school closure? How about small IELTS pop courses?
What will be the first language schools to open? Has anyone heard any speculative dates for when 2nd tier opening will be IF all goes well with this first group?
Min. of Social Action has been, in theory at least, running vocational training for Garment staff since Feb. Might language, computer, and other part-time "skills" schools be as/more controlled by them than by MOEYS? Anyone know if the Don Bosco vocational schools are open or closed? What about CamEd? Govt training programs?
From a blog post on another site, seems the MoEYS is not ready to do much in the near-term future.
As operators of a small school we decided to visit with the local MoEYS office to see what progress is being made given that schools have yet to open since March. On a Thursday afternoon we met with a MoEYS official in Phnom Penh to learn what the ministry is doing to get the education sector back on its feet. Tragically, we learned that little has been done and even less has been formally planned. We asked how the “20 high safety” schools had been selected for re-opening and were informed that they were hand-picked by the higher ups in the ministry -- without any guidelines. We asked what the ministry had planned for Phase II and III, and were told that no meetings have been held for line ministry staff nor have public health guidelines for schools been disseminated. We expected to hear that the khan-level staff would be in training/preparation for re-openings with guidelines and benchmarks but in truth nothing has been done or is planned. Although the administrator we spoke to was polite and to-the-point, the disappointment in the ministry’s lack of leadership and competence was evident. Morale is low.
As operators of a small school we decided to visit with the local MoEYS office to see what progress is being made given that schools have yet to open since March. On a Thursday afternoon we met with a MoEYS official in Phnom Penh to learn what the ministry is doing to get the education sector back on its feet. Tragically, we learned that little has been done and even less has been formally planned. We asked how the “20 high safety” schools had been selected for re-opening and were informed that they were hand-picked by the higher ups in the ministry -- without any guidelines. We asked what the ministry had planned for Phase II and III, and were told that no meetings have been held for line ministry staff nor have public health guidelines for schools been disseminated. We expected to hear that the khan-level staff would be in training/preparation for re-openings with guidelines and benchmarks but in truth nothing has been done or is planned. Although the administrator we spoke to was polite and to-the-point, the disappointment in the ministry’s lack of leadership and competence was evident. Morale is low.
Beltei is a mix of Primary/Secondary/High school education for the official general Khmer education as well as a separate curriculum with dedicated English language school for both children/teenagers and adults ("evening school"). For the money it costs, I don't think it's bad and it earns praises, however it is certainly not the level of "Western" (especially European) education. Western education, where children get "taught" to think for themselves, instead of become a "follower".
Western is a bit of the same, where children start at a somewhat younger age, though I value Beltei significantly higher than Western International school (provided we consider the same "Western" school).
Regarding the lack of decision at MoEYS: Understandable, since nobody wants to burn their fingers on things suddenly get out of control, which can happen in less than a week, if just bad luck happens and a superspreader shows up at school (IE the popular person interacting with a lot of people, infecting all of them). So, as long as HS does not "encourage" the schools to restart, nobody will take initiative for that. After all, despite its official democratic structure, Cambodia is effectively quite similar to a dictatorship (less the often very violent control mechanisms often coming with dictatorships).
Regarding the "costs" vs. "effectiveness" of remote education: I think, it's not that bad, provided the parents do have a very close eye on the children attending the remote lessons and follow up (and are able to do so) on "making homework".
After all, who does have the benefit, the school education system stays in place ? In the end the parents, I would say.
When these schools go out of business, it'll take many years before a similar infrastructure is rebuild from nearly scratch, leaving parents in twilight for many years.
So, I already decided to continue with the Beltei school for my kids. They might duplicate a year, etc, so be it, though my approach is to better "invest" now in having the schooling infrastructure kept alive, then effectively create a nowhere to go for schooling after the crisis is over.
Let's not forget, that founding and building all these schools has been a tremendous effort, despite many K440 "complaining" about these schools being not that perfect. Could be, but there were Cambodians (and foreigners) prepared to put their energy in it and build this school infrastructure from nothing. I think, we should be grateful for that and help the schools to continue to exist.
Western is a bit of the same, where children start at a somewhat younger age, though I value Beltei significantly higher than Western International school (provided we consider the same "Western" school).
Regarding the lack of decision at MoEYS: Understandable, since nobody wants to burn their fingers on things suddenly get out of control, which can happen in less than a week, if just bad luck happens and a superspreader shows up at school (IE the popular person interacting with a lot of people, infecting all of them). So, as long as HS does not "encourage" the schools to restart, nobody will take initiative for that. After all, despite its official democratic structure, Cambodia is effectively quite similar to a dictatorship (less the often very violent control mechanisms often coming with dictatorships).
Regarding the "costs" vs. "effectiveness" of remote education: I think, it's not that bad, provided the parents do have a very close eye on the children attending the remote lessons and follow up (and are able to do so) on "making homework".
After all, who does have the benefit, the school education system stays in place ? In the end the parents, I would say.
When these schools go out of business, it'll take many years before a similar infrastructure is rebuild from nearly scratch, leaving parents in twilight for many years.
So, I already decided to continue with the Beltei school for my kids. They might duplicate a year, etc, so be it, though my approach is to better "invest" now in having the schooling infrastructure kept alive, then effectively create a nowhere to go for schooling after the crisis is over.
Let's not forget, that founding and building all these schools has been a tremendous effort, despite many K440 "complaining" about these schools being not that perfect. Could be, but there were Cambodians (and foreigners) prepared to put their energy in it and build this school infrastructure from nothing. I think, we should be grateful for that and help the schools to continue to exist.
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