Visser. This is nonsense. He made very specific claims. He provided no evidence. Where is the paperwork? Where is the research?
Let me tell you where it is - his claims were investigated by other outlets the following day. Their research led to him literally walking back his claims and apologising on air.
Fuck me, CNN even interviewed one of the allegedly dead people he named on air. She voted for Trump! She didn’t seem very dead to me but I’m not judge of this sort of thing.
I can’t be arsed dealing with your nonsense anymore. Like I said, I’ll accept your arguments once this evidence is presented in court and accepted by judges. So far, nearly two weeks after the election, no evidence has been presented that convinced anyone. On the contrary, the cases have failed dismally.
You simply can’t get around that fact.
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I guess your google search resulted in the Newsweek article stating one of those persons was a mixup as his wife voted as Mrs James Blalock Jr?scobienz wrote: ↑Sun Nov 15, 2020 11:54 pmVisser. This is nonsense. He made very specific claims. He provided no evidence. Where is the paperwork? Where is the research?
Let me tell you where it is - his claims were investigated by other outlets the following day. Their research led to him literally walking back his claims and apologising on air.
If you read the article, and watch Tucker you would know that this only concerns this one person, still the article falsely claims that it concerns multiple people and makes it sound all cases were bs.
Nah, one important case was won, although I doubt you have even heard of this case. And as mentioned before, low level court cases are not going to decide the election outcome, that is probably up to scotus.I can’t be arsed dealing with your nonsense anymore. Like I said, I’ll accept your arguments once this evidence is presented in court and accepted by judges. So far, nearly two weeks after the election, no evidence has been presented that convinced anyone. On the contrary, the cases have failed dismally.
You simply can’t get around that fact.
Contrary to what you believe, or whatever opinion you received today from your favorite left wing media outlet, the evidence presented thus far has convinced tens of millions of people.
None but ourselves can free our mind.
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150 million odd ballots, you are going to get some fraud, be it intentional or otherwise. There is some in every election, everywhere.
The challenge is ensuring levels of fraud are immaterial.
What is concerning is that individual incidents are being presented as evidence of materiality.
What is even more concerning is media outlets claiming there was no fraud in this election.Prahok wrote: ↑Mon Nov 16, 2020 12:22 am150 million odd ballots, you are going to get some fraud, be it intentional or otherwise. There is some in every election, everywhere.
The challenge is ensuring levels of fraud are immaterial.
What is concerning is that individual incidents are being presented as evidence of materiality.
Then again this is not about voter fraud but about having different rules for different groups of voters within the same state and Rep observers being denied meaningful access to vote counting stations.
Best/worst case scenario all these ballots are thrown out which will result in an easy win for Trump in MI and PA.
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Which ones? I don't think any are claiming zero fraud, merely there isn't systematic or material levels of fraud.
Rather than listen to the Democrats or Republicans it is better to take into consideration the views of impartial, third parties. To the best of my knowledge there hasn't been any concerns related to systematic or material levels of fraud from such parties.
In the meantime the courts will address individual grievances and will provide some indication to whether material fraud occurred.
For instance the NYT: "The Times Called Officials in Every State: No Evidence of Voter Fraud "Prahok wrote: ↑Mon Nov 16, 2020 1:34 amWhich ones? I don't think any are claiming zero fraud, merely there isn't systematic or material levels of fraud.
Rather than listen to the Democrats or Republicans it is better to take into consideration the views of impartial, third parties. To the best of my knowledge there hasn't been any concerns related to systematic or material levels of fraud from such parties.
In the meantime the courts will address individual grievances and will provide some indication to whether material fraud occurred.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/10/us/p ... fraud.html
But more serious is news outlets writing stuff that is factually untrue and just leaving it up even if debunked by the man in question himself. Are you familiar with the Richard Hopkins case?
This is what MSN is (still) reporting:
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/postal- ... d=74138861
While the man himself openly states he did not recant those claims:
Btw, with the current hyper-partizan media, who would you consider an impartial third party?
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I'd be concerned if OSCE (international election observer mission), Homeland Security (though part of the Trump administration), FBI (also under the Trump administration), Transparency International or international allies such as Japan, Australia, or UK voiced concerns of material fraud.
The better question is whether you would accept the result if the courts find no material fraud.
The better question is whether you would accept the result if the courts find no material fraud.
Seeing how my antifa Twitter alter ego has behaved over the last four years, probably notPrahok wrote: ↑Mon Nov 16, 2020 2:27 amI'd be concerned if OSCE (international election observer mission), Homeland Security (though part of the Trump administration), FBI (also under the Trump administration), Transparency International or international allies such as Japan, Australia, or UK voiced concerns of material fraud.
The better question is whether you would accept the result if the courts find no material fraud.
Jokes aside, for me this is mostly entertainment during covid plus the escalation of the culture war in the US is quite interesting from an anthropological perspective.
But I did have a good chuckle at all those people believing that if Biden wins it will be a return to normalcy. Its as if they suddenly can't remember the last four years of their 'resistance'.
Making lists of 'people who aided and abetted him' so you can de-person people with wrong think doesn't exactly help either.
The show will go on.
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Blimey, after Trump University, Trump Hotels, and Trump Ties, what we should expect next is Trump Wines….
Plenty of sour grapes going around his base.
Plenty of sour grapes going around his base.
"Now, then, in order to understand white supremacy we must dismiss the notion that white people can give anybody their freedom." Stokely Carmichael
Looks more, the whole Trumpie empire is going to collapse, once the Tax papers are examined. There are serious leaks, showing the Trumpies have significantly more debt than everybody assumed before. And none of their businesses do seem to be core-profitable, only staying afloat due to bullying, cheating, lying, as we have seen the Trumpie master in the White House doing in the past 4 years.
Even Trumpie his minute appearance in Home Alone turned to be due to bullying and blackmailing. What a shame.
No, they won't. Next step will be bullying the electoral voters to "follow" the Republican public opinion and not follow the state winner.
Let me quote this, from a wise man:
"We would never accept that out of our own kids behaving that way if they lost, right? I mean, if my daughters -- in any kind of competition -- pouted and -- and then accused the other side of cheating when they lost, when there was no evidence of it, we'd scold 'em,"
"We would never accept that out of our own kids behaving that way if they lost, right? I mean, if my daughters -- in any kind of competition -- pouted and -- and then accused the other side of cheating when they lost, when there was no evidence of it, we'd scold 'em,"
I think both Trump and Joe are clowns.
The question we should all be asking is who chose them?
We know why.
The question we should all be asking is who chose them?
We know why.
poster wrote: Like I said, I’ll accept your arguments once this evidence is presented in court and accepted by judges.
Good thing the dems don't apply such rigorous standards to themselves. It was the Russians!
Good thing the dems don't apply such rigorous standards to themselves. It was the Russians!
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