NGO setups = witch hunt
NGO setups = witch hunt
Just wanted to pass info about the quickly developing reality in Cambodia today. Hope I've posted in the proper forum. Thanks.
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Entrapment of paedophiles
Monday, 10 May 2010 15:03 Cameron Wells and Chrann Chamroeun
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Chief of legal aid group says activists, police conspire to snare foreign men
THE director of the Cambodian Defenders Project, a legal aid organisation, has accused local NGOs and police of engaging in entrapment when pursuing paedophilia cases, reiterating allegations that have cropped up occasionally in court – only to be denied by police officials and child protection activists.
During a presentation on implementation of the Law on Suppression of Human Trafficking and Sexual Exploitation, which was passed in 2008, Sok Sam Oeun said Friday that the practice of entrapment must cease immediately.
“NGO activists and police make traps with the mother of a young girl and a sex buyer,” he said. “As a result, the mother, daughter and buyer are arrested. This practice must be stopped. The duty of police is to prevent people from committing any crime, not to persuade them.”
Reached on Sunday, Sok Sam Oeun, executive director of the Cambodian Defenders Project, declined to say how frequently he believes entrapment occurs. “I only know that this is what happens, and I want it to stop,” he said.
He also declined to name the specific NGOs he was referring to in his speech, which was delivered Friday during a conference on migration in the capital.
But Dun Vibol, a defence lawyer who often represents foreign paedophilia suspects, on Sunday repeated claims previously made in court that Action Pour Les Enfants (APLE), the most prominent NGO fighting the sexual exploitation of children, engaged in entrapment as part of its
investigations. He also said he believed law enforcement was complicit in the practice
“From my experience, in most child sex cases related to foreigners, they have been trapped by local NGO Action Pour Les Enfants with local police to nab foreigners, without preventing the crime from happening. They let the crime occur, and then arrest the foreigners,” he said.
He referred in particular to the case of Claude Jean-Pierre Demeret, a Frenchman who received a three-year suspended sentence in January after being found guilty of soliciting sex from a 16-year-old girl. Chong Eav Heng, Demeret’s defence lawyer, claimed during the trial that police had engaged in entrapment against his client.
Presiding Judge Chan Madina seemed to agree at the time, accusing the victim of having been involved in similar schemes as part of cases against four other foreigners.
Prior to the incident that led to Demeret’s conviction, the girl was being cared for at a shelter run by a local NGO, leading Dun Vibol to question whether the crime could have been prevented in the first place.
“Demeret was being investigated by the NGO’s caseworkers and police when they saw him take the girl to sleep with,” he said. “For this case, I was wondering why the girl was freed from the shelter and came to do business as a prostitute with Demeret.”
A representative from the NGO could not be reached for comment Sunday.
But Samleang Seila, country director for APLE, which represented the girl, said Dun Vibol’s allegations were part of “a strategy of the defence lawyers to attack the case, to attack APLE”.
He rejected the entrapment allegations, saying, “If anyone wants to find out, or if there is any kind of evidence, they can check with us.”
“Dun Vibol is trying to make himself famous,” he added. “He would do anything to get his client free from court.”
He went on to express concern that entrapment allegations could compromise the fight against paedophilia in Cambodia.
“People will come to Cambodia and use this as a defence. This defence will increase,” he said.
“It will create complications, and [perpetrators] will use this as justification”.
Bith Kimhong, director of the Interior Ministry’s Anti-Human Trafficking and Juvenile Protection Department, denied Dun Vibol’s allegations that police had been involved in cases of entrapment of paedophiles.
“Our police have never entrapped foreigners, but we always investigate when they are suspected of child sexual abuse,” he said. “When we see foreigners are with minors, like walking with them on the streets, we investigate in order to find any evidence to press charges by questioning the victims.”
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Entrapment of paedophiles
Monday, 10 May 2010 15:03 Cameron Wells and Chrann Chamroeun
Chief of legal aid group says activists, police conspire to snare foreign men
THE director of the Cambodian Defenders Project, a legal aid organisation, has accused local NGOs and police of engaging in entrapment when pursuing paedophilia cases, reiterating allegations that have cropped up occasionally in court – only to be denied by police officials and child protection activists.
During a presentation on implementation of the Law on Suppression of Human Trafficking and Sexual Exploitation, which was passed in 2008, Sok Sam Oeun said Friday that the practice of entrapment must cease immediately.
“NGO activists and police make traps with the mother of a young girl and a sex buyer,” he said. “As a result, the mother, daughter and buyer are arrested. This practice must be stopped. The duty of police is to prevent people from committing any crime, not to persuade them.”
Reached on Sunday, Sok Sam Oeun, executive director of the Cambodian Defenders Project, declined to say how frequently he believes entrapment occurs. “I only know that this is what happens, and I want it to stop,” he said.
He also declined to name the specific NGOs he was referring to in his speech, which was delivered Friday during a conference on migration in the capital.
But Dun Vibol, a defence lawyer who often represents foreign paedophilia suspects, on Sunday repeated claims previously made in court that Action Pour Les Enfants (APLE), the most prominent NGO fighting the sexual exploitation of children, engaged in entrapment as part of its
investigations. He also said he believed law enforcement was complicit in the practice
“From my experience, in most child sex cases related to foreigners, they have been trapped by local NGO Action Pour Les Enfants with local police to nab foreigners, without preventing the crime from happening. They let the crime occur, and then arrest the foreigners,” he said.
He referred in particular to the case of Claude Jean-Pierre Demeret, a Frenchman who received a three-year suspended sentence in January after being found guilty of soliciting sex from a 16-year-old girl. Chong Eav Heng, Demeret’s defence lawyer, claimed during the trial that police had engaged in entrapment against his client.
Presiding Judge Chan Madina seemed to agree at the time, accusing the victim of having been involved in similar schemes as part of cases against four other foreigners.
Prior to the incident that led to Demeret’s conviction, the girl was being cared for at a shelter run by a local NGO, leading Dun Vibol to question whether the crime could have been prevented in the first place.
“Demeret was being investigated by the NGO’s caseworkers and police when they saw him take the girl to sleep with,” he said. “For this case, I was wondering why the girl was freed from the shelter and came to do business as a prostitute with Demeret.”
A representative from the NGO could not be reached for comment Sunday.
But Samleang Seila, country director for APLE, which represented the girl, said Dun Vibol’s allegations were part of “a strategy of the defence lawyers to attack the case, to attack APLE”.
He rejected the entrapment allegations, saying, “If anyone wants to find out, or if there is any kind of evidence, they can check with us.”
“Dun Vibol is trying to make himself famous,” he added. “He would do anything to get his client free from court.”
He went on to express concern that entrapment allegations could compromise the fight against paedophilia in Cambodia.
“People will come to Cambodia and use this as a defence. This defence will increase,” he said.
“It will create complications, and [perpetrators] will use this as justification”.
Bith Kimhong, director of the Interior Ministry’s Anti-Human Trafficking and Juvenile Protection Department, denied Dun Vibol’s allegations that police had been involved in cases of entrapment of paedophiles.
“Our police have never entrapped foreigners, but we always investigate when they are suspected of child sexual abuse,” he said. “When we see foreigners are with minors, like walking with them on the streets, we investigate in order to find any evidence to press charges by questioning the victims.”
next day's reaction from APLE...
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APLE to sue for defamation
Tuesday, 11 May 2010 15:03 Cameron Wells and Chrann Chamroeun
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Samleang Seila, director of Action Pour Les Enfants, sits Monday on a bench near Wat Phnom, the site of some alleged child-sex crimes his organisation has investigated.
THE director of child protection NGO Action Pour Les Enfants (APLE) said Monday that he is preparing to file a defamation complaint against a defence lawyer who on Sunday accused his organisation of engaging in entrapment when pursuing paedophilia cases.
Dun Vibol, who regularly represents foreign paedophile suspects, on Sunday told the Post that he believed entrapment had been employed by APLE “in most sex cases related to foreigners”, a claim he had previously made in court on several occasions. His comments came two days after Sok Sam Oeun, director of the Cambodian Defenders Project, a legal aid NGO, told a conference, without naming specific organisations, that he also believed entrapment was employed in such cases.
“We will file a complaint following the story,” APLE Director Samleang Seila said on Monday. “He has said [these allegations] in a trial before, which is legal. But if he spoke about this outside the trial, legally we can file a [defamation] complaint against him.”
He said he would file the complaint within “a couple of days”.
He also said he was still waiting to receive a reply from the Bar Association of Cambodia concerning a complaint filed against Dun Vibol in June of last year, and that he planned to file a new complaint if he did not hear back soon.
The complaint accuses Dun Vibol of submitting false documents and paying bribes while defending one of his clients, Frenchman Jacques Bernard Rene Collinet, who was convicted last September of purchasing child prostitution and given a three-year prison sentence, two years of which were suspended.
Phnom Penh Municipal Court found that the female victim in the case was 16 years old when the sex act in question occurred. The complaint from Samleang Seila accuses Dun Vibol of forging documents to make the case that she was actually 19 at the time, and of paying an official a bribe of US$50 to certify the documents.
“We have filed a complaint with the Bar Association against Dun Vibol for submitting fake evidence to the court,” Samleang Seila said, adding that the association had told him last month that the case required further investigation.
Chiv Songhak, the president of the Bar Association, said Monday that he was too busy to comment because he was in a meeting.
But Don Vibol denied the allegations, saying the victim’s family book didn’t accurately state her birth date.
“There was something erased over the year 1993,” he said. “I wanted to confirm with police officials to certify she was born in 1990.”
He said he had paid $50 in “tea money” to Hang Socheat, the deputy police chief of Kampong Krosang commune, in Takeo province’s Borei Cholsa district, to expedite the process of getting the form changed.
He added that he was not concerned about the prospect of a defamation lawsuit, saying, “I have enough evidence in my hands to prove [APLE’s] investigations entrap foreigners.”
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APLE to sue for defamation
Tuesday, 11 May 2010 15:03 Cameron Wells and Chrann Chamroeun
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Photo by: Sovan Philong
Samleang Seila, director of Action Pour Les Enfants, sits Monday on a bench near Wat Phnom, the site of some alleged child-sex crimes his organisation has investigated.
THE director of child protection NGO Action Pour Les Enfants (APLE) said Monday that he is preparing to file a defamation complaint against a defence lawyer who on Sunday accused his organisation of engaging in entrapment when pursuing paedophilia cases.
Dun Vibol, who regularly represents foreign paedophile suspects, on Sunday told the Post that he believed entrapment had been employed by APLE “in most sex cases related to foreigners”, a claim he had previously made in court on several occasions. His comments came two days after Sok Sam Oeun, director of the Cambodian Defenders Project, a legal aid NGO, told a conference, without naming specific organisations, that he also believed entrapment was employed in such cases.
“We will file a complaint following the story,” APLE Director Samleang Seila said on Monday. “He has said [these allegations] in a trial before, which is legal. But if he spoke about this outside the trial, legally we can file a [defamation] complaint against him.”
He said he would file the complaint within “a couple of days”.
He also said he was still waiting to receive a reply from the Bar Association of Cambodia concerning a complaint filed against Dun Vibol in June of last year, and that he planned to file a new complaint if he did not hear back soon.
The complaint accuses Dun Vibol of submitting false documents and paying bribes while defending one of his clients, Frenchman Jacques Bernard Rene Collinet, who was convicted last September of purchasing child prostitution and given a three-year prison sentence, two years of which were suspended.
Phnom Penh Municipal Court found that the female victim in the case was 16 years old when the sex act in question occurred. The complaint from Samleang Seila accuses Dun Vibol of forging documents to make the case that she was actually 19 at the time, and of paying an official a bribe of US$50 to certify the documents.
“We have filed a complaint with the Bar Association against Dun Vibol for submitting fake evidence to the court,” Samleang Seila said, adding that the association had told him last month that the case required further investigation.
Chiv Songhak, the president of the Bar Association, said Monday that he was too busy to comment because he was in a meeting.
But Don Vibol denied the allegations, saying the victim’s family book didn’t accurately state her birth date.
“There was something erased over the year 1993,” he said. “I wanted to confirm with police officials to certify she was born in 1990.”
He said he had paid $50 in “tea money” to Hang Socheat, the deputy police chief of Kampong Krosang commune, in Takeo province’s Borei Cholsa district, to expedite the process of getting the form changed.
He added that he was not concerned about the prospect of a defamation lawsuit, saying, “I have enough evidence in my hands to prove [APLE’s] investigations entrap foreigners.”
further threats....
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Lawyer could be disbarred in APLE case
Wednesday, 12 May 2010 15:03 CHRANN CHAMROEUN AND CAMERON WELLS
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A DEFENCE lawyer who frequently represents foreign paedophile suspects could lose his licence if a bar complaint accusing him of bribery and forging false documents is upheld, the president of the Bar Association of Cambodia said Tuesday.
The complaint, filed by Samleang Seila, director of the prominent child protection NGO Action Pour Les Enfants (APLE), accuses Dun Vibol of submitting false documents and paying bribes to an official in Takeo province while defending one of his clients, Frenchman Jacques Bernard Renet Collinet.
Bar Association President Chiv Songhak said Tuesday that the investigation into the complaint would soon be complete.
“We are still proceeding with investigations in this case, and we will soon forward this report from our inspection teams to our counsellors for a final decision,” he said, adding that Dun Vibol could face a warning, a fine or the loss of his licence if the ruling goes against him.
Collinet received a three-year prison sentence, two years of which were suspended, last September after Phnom Penh Municipal Court found him guilty of purchasing child prostitution. Dun Vibol had argued that the female victim in the case was 19 at the time the crime was committed.
Samleang Seila’s complaint accuses Dun Vibol of forging documents to make this case, as well as paying an illicit fee of US$50 to Hang Socheat, the deputy police chief in Takeo’s Kampong Krosang commune, to get the documents certified.
Dun Vibol has denied forging documents and claimed that the $50 was mere “tea money” paid to expedite the processing of a form, but Samleang Seila said Tuesday that he believed the payment was a bribe. “In order to get the bribe, the official was instructed by Dun Vibol on what to write. That was the intent: to copy the document and falsify the age,” he said.
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Lawyer could be disbarred in APLE case
Wednesday, 12 May 2010 15:03 CHRANN CHAMROEUN AND CAMERON WELLS
A DEFENCE lawyer who frequently represents foreign paedophile suspects could lose his licence if a bar complaint accusing him of bribery and forging false documents is upheld, the president of the Bar Association of Cambodia said Tuesday.
The complaint, filed by Samleang Seila, director of the prominent child protection NGO Action Pour Les Enfants (APLE), accuses Dun Vibol of submitting false documents and paying bribes to an official in Takeo province while defending one of his clients, Frenchman Jacques Bernard Renet Collinet.
Bar Association President Chiv Songhak said Tuesday that the investigation into the complaint would soon be complete.
“We are still proceeding with investigations in this case, and we will soon forward this report from our inspection teams to our counsellors for a final decision,” he said, adding that Dun Vibol could face a warning, a fine or the loss of his licence if the ruling goes against him.
Collinet received a three-year prison sentence, two years of which were suspended, last September after Phnom Penh Municipal Court found him guilty of purchasing child prostitution. Dun Vibol had argued that the female victim in the case was 19 at the time the crime was committed.
Samleang Seila’s complaint accuses Dun Vibol of forging documents to make this case, as well as paying an illicit fee of US$50 to Hang Socheat, the deputy police chief in Takeo’s Kampong Krosang commune, to get the documents certified.
Dun Vibol has denied forging documents and claimed that the $50 was mere “tea money” paid to expedite the processing of a form, but Samleang Seila said Tuesday that he believed the payment was a bribe. “In order to get the bribe, the official was instructed by Dun Vibol on what to write. That was the intent: to copy the document and falsify the age,” he said.
theres a lot of bitching about ngos on this forum.
jealous that we are actually here making a difference, doing constructive helpful work and getting fairly paid for that work instead of being involved in pointless unprofitable businesses like bars?
there have been plenty of legitamit pedophiles caught, but not much praise given to those who caught them
jealous that we are actually here making a difference, doing constructive helpful work and getting fairly paid for that work instead of being involved in pointless unprofitable businesses like bars?
there have been plenty of legitamit pedophiles caught, but not much praise given to those who caught them
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Sorry sir, I stopped right there.Vera71 wrote:theres a lot of bitching about ngos on this forum.
jealous that we are actually here making a difference, doing constructive helpful work and getting fairly paid for that work instead of being involved in pointless unprofitable businesses like bars?
there have been plenty of legitamit pedophiles caught, but not much praise given to those who caught them
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Yeah, well don't expect Vic to start praising them, he's only come on here to whine about the terrible injustices pedophiles face.Vera71 wrote: there have been plenty of legitimate pedophiles caught, but not much praise given to those who caught them
You haven't, I think you'll find Inquisition21 more to your liking.Vic wrote: Hope I've posted in the proper forum.
Great, another spelling Nazi...Ted Kennedy wrote:Sorry sir, I stopped right there.
Bars are pointless? Not if you like drinking they're not.instead of being involved in pointless unprofitable businesses like bars?
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I sense a troll but having worked alongside NGOs in the past, I can attest that quite a few do absolutely nothing useful but squander donation money. I think that iof many donors actually came and saw the "results" of some NGOs the treasuries would dry up. They often have poor money management skills and overpaid workers. I also feel that many ngo workers were "dreamy" types that truly wanted to change the world in high-school/college but eventually lost their way and now put money first.Vera71 wrote:theres a lot of bitching about ngos on this forum.
jealous that we are actually here making a difference, doing constructive helpful work and getting fairly paid for that work instead of being involved in pointless unprofitable businesses like bars?
there have been plenty of legitamit pedophiles caught, but not much praise given to those who caught them
That being said, many NGO's do some fine work and are really beneficial. They have dedicated workers that put the cause before themselves, work tirelessly to make a difference and every cent is closely monitered. But a country like Cambodia simply has too many NGOs for it's own good. A lot of them are bogus/mismanaged etc.
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