If that's the barbarian add-on, it's part of the Rome: Gold set that I've just downloaded. Not sure when I'll have time to play it - too busy conquering Phnom Penh to tackle the West at the moment.MoodyMac wrote:Look at getting the Europa Barbarorum mod. It's an accurate historic mod. I've never played it, but looks good, especially as an educational excuse for a game. I dropped my PC last year during the flooding and haven't got round to getting a new one yet. I haven't played RTW for a few years, but I reckon it is one of the best games ever made. I'll have to look at getting a new PC now, as I have my appetite whetted. This Mac just doesn't cut it.andyinasia wrote:Unbelievable. Seriously. I read this post just as that game has finished downloading. My desire to educate myself on military strategy drew me to computer games and the one that is low spec enough to plug n play and turns me on is Rome: TW. Wahay!MoodyMac wrote:God, just thinking about this makes me want to play Rome Total War.
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It's a mod made by an independent group who desired total historic realism. Just browsing through their site, I'm impressed. It is rated as one of the best mods ever made for a game. The barbarian expansion is official, and is fun to play, but I think if I get back into it I will try the realism mod. The original has some funny units like flaming pigs, and Gaulic head throwers. Very good game though. If I was only allowed to play one game for the rest of my life, this would be it.andyinasia wrote:If that's the barbarian add-on, it's part of the Rome: Gold set that I've just downloaded. Not sure when I'll have time to play it - too busy conquering Phnom Penh to tackle the West at the moment.MoodyMac wrote:Look at getting the Europa Barbarorum mod. It's an accurate historic mod. I've never played it, but looks good, especially as an educational excuse for a game. I dropped my PC last year during the flooding and haven't got round to getting a new one yet. I haven't played RTW for a few years, but I reckon it is one of the best games ever made. I'll have to look at getting a new PC now, as I have my appetite whetted. This Mac just doesn't cut it.andyinasia wrote:Unbelievable. Seriously. I read this post just as that game has finished downloading. My desire to educate myself on military strategy drew me to computer games and the one that is low spec enough to plug n play and turns me on is Rome: TW. Wahay!MoodyMac wrote:God, just thinking about this makes me want to play Rome Total War.
http://www.europabarbarorum.com/
Good luck conquering Phnom Penh, I will wait for the rainy season when the tourist numbers drop off and conquer a slice of the Med.
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So, you juxtapose that the intelligence agencies "just do not know" what's going on with Iran and whether they're building a bomb with "what is clear, Iran is building the capacity to build nuclear weapons, that is a fact". Okay. So it's "no logic" time then, is it? Or opposite day? Or what?connecticuter wrote: If you dig into the article, it becomes clear that those findings are connected with two things. The reluctance of the intelligence agencies to get it wrong this time around. Also, the various agencies have gotten very little intel since 2007. Essentially, they just do not know.
However, what is clear, Iran is building the capability to build nuclear weapons: that is a fact. It is also a fact that they will not let inspectors into Parchin, which is where analysists suspect that they have been working on a nuclear system trigger. It is also a fact that they are enriching uranium in a facility built in a mountain 250 feet under granite: nothing supsicious there.
No doubt your discerning mind sharpened by the graduate degree in Philosophy trumps whatever nonsense the 16 US intelligence agencies have at their disposal.
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Sorry JC, you don't seem to understand the distinction being made: maybe you didn't read all the articles posted. (That was written in a friendly non-dickish tone.) Think of it like a garage. Your neighbor has built a garage, he has assembled enough tools and parts to build a car. He has the capability to build a car. The question is, is it his intention to build a car or not. Further, you are not able to get a complete view of the interior of the garage; thus, from the actions you have seen, you are unable to determine if he is infact building a car. What would be clear is his capability and not his intention.Jacked Camry wrote:So, you juxtapose that the intelligence agencies "just do not know" what's going on with Iran and whether they're building a bomb with "what is clear, Iran is building the capacity to build nuclear weapons, that is a fact". Okay. So it's "no logic" time then, is it? Or opposite day? Or what?connecticuter wrote: If you dig into the article, it becomes clear that those findings are connected with two things. The reluctance of the intelligence agencies to get it wrong this time around. Also, the various agencies have gotten very little intel since 2007. Essentially, they just do not know.
However, what is clear, Iran is building the capability to build nuclear weapons: that is a fact. It is also a fact that they will not let inspectors into Parchin, which is where analysists suspect that they have been working on a nuclear system trigger. It is also a fact that they are enriching uranium in a facility built in a mountain 250 feet under granite: nothing supsicious there.
No doubt your discerning mind sharpened by the graduate degree in Philosophy trumps whatever nonsense the 16 US intelligence agencies have at their disposal.
In the case of Iran, the evidence from Parchin, Qom, and other sites, is that they are essentially now capable of building a nuclear device (not imediately, of course). The intelligence agencies are basically saying that they cannot determine if the Iranians have started to build a device or if they intend to build a device (as opposed to just holding onto the capability for a "rainy day").
This distinction is an important one. Both the Israelis and the Obama administration agree that the Iranians have the capability, both seem to agree that the Iranians have not started to actually build a bomb yet; although, the are not sure, hence the desire for inspections. The disagreement between the US and the Israelis seems to be centered on two issues. The US is being agnostic on the issue of intent, while the Israelis hold that the Iranians do infact intend to build a weapon. Second, the US and Israel seem to disagree about when it would be too late to stop the Iranians if/when they decided to utilize their capability. The US seems to think there is much more time before the zone of immunity is reached. Whereas the Israelis seem to think it is close at hand.
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The US was an animated corpse, stinking up the rest of the planet well before we freed the bejesus out of the Iraqi people. An inevitable result since December 1913, when Woodrow Wilson signed the Federal Reserve Act into law. Now, like infected zombies, we're freeing any country without a Rothschild Central Bank.Chuangt2u wrote:Yeah, I know what it is.Walter White wrote:A grim epiphany of victory gained at too great a cost. King Pyrrhus of Epirus defeated the Romans in 279 BC at the battle of Asculum in Apulia. Although Pyrrhus' forces won the battle, they suffered ruinous losses in resources and soldiers. Much like Russia and the US in Afghanistan and the US in Iraq. We've squandered our future and more over some bogus intelligence reports in order to satiate some neocolonial Zionist wet dream. Now they want more. Proverbial Ashes in our Mouth.Chuangt2u wrote:Huh?Walter White wrote: one more Pyrrhic victory for the US
A victory in a single battle gained at such cost that any further battle in the war would be lost, ergo - the kingdom would be lost. A bit like somehow knocking out Tyson, but getting so badly beaten up while doing it that you're easily mugged by grandma at the chip shop the following Saturday night.
I was Huh-ing the "one more Pyrrhic victory"... fkd by definition.
Pyrrhus simply lacked our money printing technology and Ben Shalom Bernanke to make it all happen.
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I have no trust whatsoever in the likelihood of the US or Israel to state anything truth-related in regards to Iran or, actually, anything else in which they have a vested interest. If you haven't reached that point yet, it means you haven't been paying very close attention to the world news over the last several decades.connecticuter wrote:This distinction is an important one. Both the Israelis and the Obama administration agree that the Iranians have the capability, both seem to agree that the Iranians have not started to actually build a bomb yet; although, the are not sure, hence the desire for inspections. The disagreement between the US and the Israelis seems to be centered on two issues. The US is being agnostic on the issue of intent, while the Israelis hold that the Iranians do infact intend to build a weapon. Second, the US and Israel seem to disagree about when it would be too late to stop the Iranians if/when they decided to utilize their capability. The US seems to think there is much more time before the zone of immunity is reached. Whereas the Israelis seem to think it is close at hand.
While it isn't a very pleasant prospect to have nutty religious people in charge of nuclear weapons, it's already the case when you look at the USA and Israel. Yet nobody has listened to the voices inside their head and dropped one on their enemies as yet - deterrence is still a valid strategic doctrine.
I personally think it would be quite interesting to see what changes should Iran manage to build a nuke. Why shouldn't they, given that Israel did in violation of the same agreements that they're using to bludgeon the Iranians with? The Iranians are exactly the same people who have the bomb today, convinced utterly of their God being the one true God, certain that they're in the right, and very unlikely to test out these hypotheses via nuclear explosion. It is often the case that one must be pushed to extremes to expose what is an obvious truth - nobody should have this capability and the whole prospect is nonsensical. Even the US has come to realize they should take their arsenal down to around 300 nukes because the rest is, literally, overkill.
This is the same philosophy by the way that makes me somewhat wish that Ron Paul wins the US election. He's a bit of a nut too, but he's a wild card, and would no doubt introduce some serious change into an ossified system so could well be the best thing that could happen to the USA.
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Jacked Camry wrote: I have no trust whatsoever in the likelihood of the US or Israel to state anything truth-related in regards to Iran or, actually, anything else in which they have a vested interest. If you haven't reached that point yet, it means you haven't been paying very close attention to the world news over the last several decades.
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Indeed. Why shouldn't they? Either everyone gets one, or nobody does would be my position. What is it Americans are fond of saying? "A well armed society is a polite society."jm wrote:By that logic why shouldn't everybody have the bomb?
I don't trust the US or Israel, given that I'll trust the words actions of the Iranian leadership themselves which I think is informative enough.
Of course it is crazy for anyone to have nuclear weapons, especially seeing how quickly regimes can change and how unstable some of the new leaders can be. Given that, it's remarkable that nobody has dropped one on anyone else since WW2, which shows that even if you're crazy, you're not crazy enough to use that thing because you know someone else will do same to you. Hence, what's the freakin' point of keeping these things around? Waiting for the inevitable accident to happen?
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Israel’s Last Chance to Strike Iran
By AMOS YADLIN
Published: February 29, 2012, NYT
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/01/opini ... -iran.html
By AMOS YADLIN
Published: February 29, 2012, NYT
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/01/opini ... -iran.html
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Barack Obama tells Israel conference: 'too much loose talk of war'
In address to Aipac, president says world has responsibility to discourage Tehran from pursuing nuclear weapon
Chris McGreal in Washington
guardian.co.uk, Monday 5 March 2012
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/ma ... l-talk-war
In address to Aipac, president says world has responsibility to discourage Tehran from pursuing nuclear weapon
Chris McGreal in Washington
guardian.co.uk, Monday 5 March 2012
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/ma ... l-talk-war
Well made short film. Some nice sketching. Fair and balanced? Seems so to me.
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Nice find - an excellent historical analysis.
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Facts, corroborated by the US government itself. Great documentary and short enough for my tiny American attention span.MoodyMac wrote:
Well made short film. Some nice sketching. Fair and balanced? Seems so to me.
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