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diamond lady wrote:For sure we can have a consult, that would be great. But no freebie for you, as pennance for yor online brattishness. You'd have to at least shout me one of those Garage burgers I keep hearing so much about.
(And now I am officially leaving this thread....have an assignment on the digestive system to finish and a kitty cat to smooch with....and the last episode of Breaking Bad (for now!) to watch!)
Deal! But you must throw in a palm reading!
andreahoch3 wrote:
gavinmac wrote:...
Actually, GavinMac, your comment made me laugh. Thanks for your concern! I gotta go now but I am so grateful for all your answers and I will definitely write more tomorrow!
Well, they say "laughter is the best medicine" so Gav should have you sorted soon.
diamond lady wrote:
“Don’t eat anything your great-great grandmother wouldn’t recognize as food. There are a great many food-like items in the supermarket your ancestors wouldn’t recognize as food.. stay away from these” ~Michael Pollan
Ok, next time I'm at Lucky's I'll make sure to pick up some a brace of pheasants, a hearty soup and some Nesselrode with some Madeira to follow.
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Romantic Cambodia is dead and gone. It's with McKinley in the grave.
andreahoch3 wrote:
Actually, GavinMac, your comment made me laugh. Thanks for your concern! I gotta go now but I am so grateful for all your answers and I will definitely write more tomorrow!
Well good, I'm glad you laughed. You may know that it's become politically incorrect in recent years to make fun of racial minorities, gays, and the physically handicapped. But at least we can still make jokes about the mentally ill. If that's ever considered to be in bad taste, I don't know what I'll do.
Now I'm not going to play charlatan here, but I noticed that several of your earlier posts ended with little yellow emoticons that suggest drinking. Hangovers can make people depressed. It's not uncommon for me to feel sad, lonely, depressed, etc. during a hangover. Sometimes hangovers even make me cry like I did at the end of "The Descendants." Really. I have no idea if you are drinking to excess, but if you are, I'm sure that Dr. van Nostrand or whatever his name is would advise you to moderate your drinking to help control your depression.
Of course, the problem is that life in Phnom Penh without drinking would probably be quite boring, lonely, and depressing, so this is a real catch-22.
I avoided comment on this topic until now, because I believe Andrea deserves honest advice and opinions on this subject and until now I had no advice for someone suffering depression.
The one advice I feel obliged to give, is that I would NEVER trust a self-professed student that offers medical treatment for a condition they have admiited they have no experience.
Diamond lady wrote:Hi Andrea, I am a student of nutrition and I will be in Phnom Penh in a couple of months.
Diamond Student wrote:I have a special interest in the health of the nervous system (this includes the brain) and have some experience treating long-term/severe anxiety disorders
I have a special interest in many things, by no means would I ever presume to offer medical advice on a subject that is obviously very personal and serious without having appropriate qualifications.
Diamond Argumentative Lunatic wrote:So many assumptions about someone who you know nothing about.......Considering you have close to no idea of my background, experience, and what advice I would give to a sufferer of depression, this comment seems rather strange to me. I'd go so far as to say aggressive.
You, in my opinion, are the aggressive one! At no time have you offered any qualifications or experience that would deem you superior to "Phnom Penh's only qualified Psychiatrist". You are very argumentative and to me it looks like you have hijacked a topic that is obviously touched quite a few members of this forum and are using this to promote your non-mainstream version of body science.
Even after two posts proclaiming "I am officially leaving this topic", you continue to post and argue with a trained professional.
My advice to you is "Put up or Shut up" - show us why someone with mental illness should listen to YOU, a student that is not experienced in dealing with depression or STFU.
Good luck Andrea! Hope you find what you are looking for!
diamond lady wrote:Conclusions: Omega-3 fatty acids may have therapeutic benefits in childhood depression.
As omega-3 fatty acids may have such benefits, if that is good science logically an apple may go upwards when it leave the tree. Due to gravity an apple may fall down, or it might fall up. Correct by your logic of proof.
A dietitian or dietician, just to please Vlad, is the correct word for anyone working in the health world. It is a protected title. A nutritionist is a word anyone can use. Holistic is a word avoided by scientists.
Can we put a health warning on diamond lady's posts?
I haven't read page 2-4 but I've gathered as much as I cared to.
IMO holistic medicine is great and placebo effects is a big thing with it and really a lot of medicine. If you believe it works it probably will. Our state of mind is important for anything to work. Hell if you believe something is killing you or you're going to die you will die, because the mind works on our emotions.
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I'm the coolest guy I know.... shit I think I need some new friends!
A very long time ago when I encountered complicated relationship issues, I was fortunate to receive free (except for a small donation - there should always be an exchange) counselling from a post-graduate psychologist at the University of New South Wales, Sydney. They need a "client" before being able to practise on their own.
She sorted me out (over time) although it can be argued "she had no experience".
Most of my friendships since have been with medical people in one way or another and a good lifestyle (including diet) are essential for a healthy state of mind. That and living in a healthy environment surrounded by motivating people really helps.
Medication can assist in treating the symptoms, but to treat the cause we have to go back to basics. Of course, each case is different.
Andrea needs someone to talk to. She does not need redicule.
Beter go home, Cambodia is not a country to stay with (more or less) serious mental problems, it will only get bigger and bigger until you no longer can drown the problems in alcohol and your life ends in a nasty way.
Don-Pierre de Plume wrote:Andrea needs someone to talk to. She does not need redicule.
I don't think anybody has ridiculed Andrea - there is 100% support for her in this thread. The hostility is wholly directed at Diamond Lady because posters perceive her as advising Andrea to forgo professional medical help in favour of alleged quackery. FWIW, I agree with you insofar as a healthy diet and environment are important for one's mental as well as physical health, but that's a bit of a no-brainer; the problem here is that if she has clinical depression and not simply feeling down in the dumps, she needs (and was rightly seeking) professional help from a qualified psychiatrist who can diagnose the appropriate course of medication as well as counselling about lifestyle changes as so on.
Some of you may remember that a while back i posted about my friend who was suicidal and going bonkers, he's no longer suicidal , although i still think he's bonkers, thanks to a Khmer witch doctor lady ( my words) who listened to him and gave him blessed charms to protect him from harm. After the first meeting ( which i attended and thought " what a load of bollocks " ) with the lady my friend improved quite quickly. I'm not suggesting this for Andrea but just to counter the attack on lady diamond and add to ThePeck's post.
PS. thanks again to Lady Tara for the help she also gave in my friend's recovery from a mental hell.
Wow I am amazed and don't even know where to start.
First of all I want to thank everyone for their support!
Secondly, I want to say that I do not do drugs, quit smoking and do not regularly drink. I go out once in a while to have a cocktail, a beer or a wine, but my last hangover was in 2010. That one was so bad I swore I never would drink that much again. So, not to worry about my usage of this cocktail smiley. I just like it, her eyes look so funny.
Yes, cambod "laughter is the best medicine" that's what they say. And it is true. I have even started watching videos like this one. It's in German but her laughter is hilarious. It starts at 00:49 -->
Actually I appreciate lady diamond's offer. For me it does not substitute a therapy but I feel that when I eat healthy, do sports etc. I do feel better. And my opinion is that physical and mental health are interconnected. So I am surely interested in meeting you, lady diamond, and talk about diet and lifestyle changes. As long as I am not being offered any drugs or suddenly have to pay anything I am open to any topic. I can only learn.
v12, actually I don't know if the Western world makes me happier. I got first depressed when I lived in Finland (for 5 years). And actually I also came back to Cambodia because I was happier here. Because the people are much warmer than say in Germany.. That is just a fact! I have to say that about my own country. When I went back last year for a few months I was not happy there. People were complaining all the time, my family expects me to live the life they want, the people, the neighbors, many do not care about each other. Of course, Khmer people have their bad sides, too. But for me they are much warmer and more hospitable than Germans. So, yes I will go back to Germany for a while to get myself sorted (education, psychotherapy) but then I plan on coming back here. But, I generally agree with you. I have heard a lot about people getting f***ed up in Cambodia. Drugs, alcohol and so on.
Now I will not put this cocktail smiley again, today it's beer.
andreahoch3 wrote:v12, actually I don't know if the Western world makes me happier. I got first depressed when I lived in Finland (for 5 years). And actually I also came back to Cambodia because I was happier here. Because the people are much warmer than say in Germany.. That is just a fact! I have to say that about my own country. When I went back last year for a few months I was not happy there. People were complaining all the time, my family expects me to live the life they want, the people, the neighbors, many do not care about each other. Of course, Khmer people have their bad sides, too. But for me they are much warmer and more hospitable than Germans. So, yes I will go back to Germany for a while to get myself sorted (education, psychotherapy) but then I plan on coming back here. But, I generally agree with you. I have heard a lot about people getting f***ed up in Cambodia. Drugs, alcohol and so on.
Certainly, many people won't get happy in the Western world. However, the Western world takes care of you, in case you can't do that yourself. In Cambodia (and many asian countries), this probably isn't going to happen (unless you manage to meet an individual who does feel pity with you). So in general, in Cambodia, you're going to die, when you can't take care of yourself. Which is usually the long term situation with mental illnesses.
Sometimes, family isn't that far off, to guide you to a stable way of life. They may have an outside view of how you mess around with your life, identify the pitfalls and suggest to do things differently. Mental illnesses in general tend to let you NOT DO the things which make your life stable&save and let DO you the things which will ruin your earthly existence in the end.
Finland in the winter isn't the best place to go, whole day dark works pretty depressing when you are susceptible for that.
Complaining: Try to understand spoken Khmer and your eyes will open up .....
andreahoch3 wrote:
Actually I appreciate lady diamond's offer. For me it does not substitute as therapy but I feel that when I eat healthy, do sports etc. I do feel better.