Has anyone got experience with the Wave RS? It's the 2013 follow-up model to the Wave S and sells for 1310 $ at the Honda dealers.
I was looking for a Wave 125i, but the Honda dealer said they don't import them. Now thinking of buying the RS or go looking around Kirirom for the 125i...
Honda moto dealer in Phnom Penh?
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So, The RS, (yes I had a 110 Wave), although it was just the 110 S, not the 110 RS, which being honest, isn't much different. Mine was a 2009 model I believe, maybe 2010...can't remember. Mechanically the same as now. I also had a 125 and a 100 to compare it too, and the 110 is my favorite of the Waves from a petrol head view. That being said though, I wouldn't buy a Wave RS myself again unless it was a good deal, I'd go for a Yamaha Taurus or a Suzuki Viva if I was to buy new in that price range. Better and more advanced bikes in my opinion.
Anyway, the 110 is surprisingly different than the 100. Different crankshaft, different piston, different clutch pack setup, and a few other very good differences in my opinion. It shares components with neither the 125 nor the 100 motor, so it's the black sheep for sure. A little hard to find parts for, but by no means impossible. The piston for example I had to import from Thailand through a supplier (when looking for a modified compression piston), but stock stuff should all be available through the Honda dealer. Cheap Chinese parts are VERY HARD TO COME BY for the engine, so that is a plus as well.
From the mechanical side of things, I think the 110 Wave is one of the best Hondas for a "petrol head" like me, dollar for dollar wise because it's not the typical repackage old technology and resell in a new body Honda. The 110 motor is a fairly new design vs. the 100 (which is from 1986 in it's current form) Take parts from an 86 Super Cub C100 and it bolts directly onto a 2013 Wave Alpha.
But, if you just want a reliable moto and have no idea why the revised crankshaft, low inertia piston, and oil feed system are "cool", then the extra $2-300 spend on the RS vs. the Alpha, is a waste of money.
So, The RS, (yes I had a 110 Wave), although it was just the 110 S, not the 110 RS, which being honest, isn't much different. Mine was a 2009 model I believe, maybe 2010...can't remember. Mechanically the same as now. I also had a 125 and a 100 to compare it too, and the 110 is my favorite of the Waves from a petrol head view. That being said though, I wouldn't buy a Wave RS myself again unless it was a good deal, I'd go for a Yamaha Taurus or a Suzuki Viva if I was to buy new in that price range. Better and more advanced bikes in my opinion.
Anyway, the 110 is surprisingly different than the 100. Different crankshaft, different piston, different clutch pack setup, and a few other very good differences in my opinion. It shares components with neither the 125 nor the 100 motor, so it's the black sheep for sure. A little hard to find parts for, but by no means impossible. The piston for example I had to import from Thailand through a supplier (when looking for a modified compression piston), but stock stuff should all be available through the Honda dealer. Cheap Chinese parts are VERY HARD TO COME BY for the engine, so that is a plus as well.
From the mechanical side of things, I think the 110 Wave is one of the best Hondas for a "petrol head" like me, dollar for dollar wise because it's not the typical repackage old technology and resell in a new body Honda. The 110 motor is a fairly new design vs. the 100 (which is from 1986 in it's current form) Take parts from an 86 Super Cub C100 and it bolts directly onto a 2013 Wave Alpha.
But, if you just want a reliable moto and have no idea why the revised crankshaft, low inertia piston, and oil feed system are "cool", then the extra $2-300 spend on the RS vs. the Alpha, is a waste of money.
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Thanks a lot, AK!AK87 wrote:Hi
So, The RS, (yes I had a 110 Wave), although it was just the 110 S, not the 110 RS, which being honest, isn't much different. Mine was a 2009 model I believe, maybe 2010...can't remember. Mechanically the same as now. I also had a 125 and a 100 to compare it too, and the 110 is my favorite of the Waves from a petrol head view. That being said though, I wouldn't buy a Wave RS myself again unless it was a good deal, I'd go for a Yamaha Taurus or a Suzuki Viva if I was to buy new in that price range. Better and more advanced bikes in my opinion.
Anyway, the 110 is surprisingly different than the 100. Different crankshaft, different piston, different clutch pack setup, and a few other very good differences in my opinion. It shares components with neither the 125 nor the 100 motor, so it's the black sheep for sure. A little hard to find parts for, but by no means impossible. The piston for example I had to import from Thailand through a supplier (when looking for a modified compression piston), but stock stuff should all be available through the Honda dealer. Cheap Chinese parts are VERY HARD TO COME BY for the engine, so that is a plus as well.
From the mechanical side of things, I think the 110 Wave is one of the best Hondas for a "petrol head" like me, dollar for dollar wise because it's not the typical repackage old technology and resell in a new body Honda. The 110 motor is a fairly new design vs. the 100 (which is from 1986 in it's current form) Take parts from an 86 Super Cub C100 and it bolts directly onto a 2013 Wave Alpha.
But, if you just want a reliable moto and have no idea why the revised crankshaft, low inertia piston, and oil feed system are "cool", then the extra $2-300 spend on the RS vs. the Alpha, is a waste of money.
To be really honest, I know nothing about bikes except how to drive one.
All I'm looking for is a reliable Moto, 110-125cc that gets me around and has a design that I like. I was thinking about buying a bigger one ...but for what!?
Budget would be around $ 1.300 and I'd prefer a new one from a dealer... Choices would be the RS, or the Viva I guess.
I love my Honda Wave. I've had it almost 3 years and have only had a few flats, replaced the front break pads (maybe the back at the same time, I forget, but it cost about $10), a few lights replaced, chain (along with something else), the speedometer cable (which I think the "mechanics" broke while doing something else) and got the seat reapolstered after it ripped after giving a girl and her bicycle a ride across town (don't ask).
I run a Yamaha Jupiter which I bought about a year ago RRP about$1580 (The Taurus which does not have ally wheels and front disk is cheaper at around $1400) I do around 1000km a month and get fee services every 1000k. Nice solid bike and handles/stops well. Been absolutely no trouble on flooded roads. Downside is poor low end response. Ie open the throttle and little happens for a frightening second or so. Mid to top end is ok. Max I have had out of it is just over 80kph. The motor is a carbed 115cc 2 valve sohc air cooled.DonCalzone wrote:Thanks a lot, AK!AK87 wrote:Hi
So, The RS, (yes I had a 110 Wave), although it was just the 110 S, not the 110 RS, which being honest, isn't much different. Mine was a 2009 model I believe, maybe 2010...can't remember. Mechanically the same as now. I also had a 125 and a 100 to compare it too, and the 110 is my favorite of the Waves from a petrol head view. That being said though, I wouldn't buy a Wave RS myself again unless it was a good deal, I'd go for a Yamaha Taurus or a Suzuki Viva if I was to buy new in that price range. Better and more advanced bikes in my opinion.
Anyway, the 110 is surprisingly different than the 100. Different crankshaft, different piston, different clutch pack setup, and a few other very good differences in my opinion. It shares components with neither the 125 nor the 100 motor, so it's the black sheep for sure. A little hard to find parts for, but by no means impossible. The piston for example I had to import from Thailand through a supplier (when looking for a modified compression piston), but stock stuff should all be available through the Honda dealer. Cheap Chinese parts are VERY HARD TO COME BY for the engine, so that is a plus as well.
From the mechanical side of things, I think the 110 Wave is one of the best Hondas for a "petrol head" like me, dollar for dollar wise because it's not the typical repackage old technology and resell in a new body Honda. The 110 motor is a fairly new design vs. the 100 (which is from 1986 in it's current form) Take parts from an 86 Super Cub C100 and it bolts directly onto a 2013 Wave Alpha.
But, if you just want a reliable moto and have no idea why the revised crankshaft, low inertia piston, and oil feed system are "cool", then the extra $2-300 spend on the RS vs. the Alpha, is a waste of money.
To be really honest, I know nothing about bikes except how to drive one.
All I'm looking for is a reliable Moto, 110-125cc that gets me around and has a design that I like. I was thinking about buying a bigger one ...but for what!?
Budget would be around $ 1.300 and I'd prefer a new one from a dealer... Choices would be the RS, or the Viva I guess.
When I arrived here in 1996 I bought a 150RR which I realy liked. Am actually thinking of getting another or maybe the 400 if there is one around.
My quote on the Taurus was $1235, slight discount for a 2012 model. I think they are $1260 or 75 for a new 2013 one.
Also, the Wave Alpha is just $1080. Don't worry about 100cc (actually 97cc), it's not much different than the 110 (which is really a 108) if power is the conern. I think the actually brake horsepower difference officially is .1, just a tad more torque on the 110.
Also, the Wave Alpha is just $1080. Don't worry about 100cc (actually 97cc), it's not much different than the 110 (which is really a 108) if power is the conern. I think the actually brake horsepower difference officially is .1, just a tad more torque on the 110.
Yes I think I was wrong on the $1400, getting allys and a disc for an extra $180 would be a bit cheap. Re the slow takeoff of the Jupiter do you think this is a function of the design (jets, cam?) or a fixable problem.AK87 wrote:My quote on the Taurus was $1235, slight discount for a 2012 model. I think they are $1260 or 75 for a new 2013 one.
Also, the Wave Alpha is just $1080. Don't worry about 100cc (actually 97cc), it's not much different than the 110 (which is really a 108) if power is the conern. I think the actually brake horsepower difference officially is .1, just a tad more torque on the 110.
I've never ridden the Jupiter (had a Sirius 115 though), and it was very punchy in the low end compared to other bikes, so I would say that you're likely going to benefit from a carb cleanout/tune up. I suspect the pilot jet is plugged. Bokor bike shop (Yamaha official dealer) has a great service center (forgot address, on Mao Tse Tong near Monivong intersection), so you could probably get them to put in a new air filter and clean out the carb for a few bucks and maybe you could buy an inline fuel filter to prevent further "cloggings". That's where I'd start.
If you had someone replace the timing chain recently, it might be off a tooth. Seen it happen.
Also for a more obscure problem, if it's the auto choke version (sorry if you don't know what that means), then sometimes the electronic choke control sticks and causes a temporary flooding of the motor at low throttle. Not common though, and I think the 115 is just a normal manual choke anyway.
If you had someone replace the timing chain recently, it might be off a tooth. Seen it happen.
Also for a more obscure problem, if it's the auto choke version (sorry if you don't know what that means), then sometimes the electronic choke control sticks and causes a temporary flooding of the motor at low throttle. Not common though, and I think the 115 is just a normal manual choke anyway.
Thanks for that but this is was a brand new bike and and was like this from the day I bought it. As I noted mid and top range are fine its the slow throttle response from takeoff thats the problem. If I shut off the throttle then open up there is a time lag before the power kicks in.AK87 wrote:I've never ridden the Jupiter (had a Sirius 115 though), and it was very punchy in the low end compared to other bikes, so I would say that you're likely going to benefit from a carb cleanout/tune up. Bokor bike shop (Yamaha official dealer) has a great service center (forgot address, on Mao Tse Tong near Monivong intersection), so you could probably get them to put in a new air filter and clean out the carb for a few bucks and maybe you could buy an inline fuel filter to prevent further "cloggings". That's where I'd start.
If you had someone replace the timing chain recently, it might be off a tooth. Seen it happen.
It could be that (if it's FI, or fuel injected) that it's just that way from the factory. I remember the throttle response on my Dream FI was a lot different than the carbed 110. Took some getting used to, snapping the throttle to 3/4 to get movement out of the bike. Still did 48 km/l though with plenty 3/4 throttle goes, so I was happy. Could be that way because they wanted to make the bike seem like it would give good fuel economy when thrashed. It also seemed a lot slower, but in reality once you got used to the throttle, it was a really quick little bugger. I think it was mapped that way for smooth setting off and slowing down.
If it's carbed, not sure, my 115 carbed Sirius had that typical low end punch that it "desireable" in the city.
If it's carbed, not sure, my 115 carbed Sirius had that typical low end punch that it "desireable" in the city.
AK's right.Mèo Đen wrote:If I shut off the throttle then open up there is a time lag before the power kicks in.
Hesitation on the throttle - check the fuel filters, check the throttle cables/linkages for slack/stretch/worn parts, clean the carb, check the fuel pump.
Yes its carbed - runs a mikuni vm 17 sh carb. Fuel economy is pretty impressive imo not sure exactly in kpl but it does 50km on $1 worth of "95" so its around 60kpl I guess.AK87 wrote:It could be that (if it's FI, or fuel injected) that it's just that way from the factory. I remember the throttle response on my Dream FI was a lot different than the carbed 110. Took some getting used to, snapping the throttle to 3/4 to get movement out of the bike. Still did 48 km/l though with plenty 3/4 throttle goes, so I was happy. Could be that way because they wanted to make the bike seem like it would give good fuel economy when thrashed. It also seemed a lot slower, but in reality once you got used to the throttle, it was a really quick little bugger. I think it was mapped that way for smooth setting off and slowing down.
If it's carbed, not sure, my 115 carbed Sirius had that typical low end punch that it "desireable" in the city.
I would then still stick with the carb clean idea (can't hurt and probably only costs $2-3 at a dealer anyway) and then go from there. It only takes a very tiny amount of anything to stuff up jets. Sometimes just a bowl full of old petrol that sits in the float too long can varnish up the jets and cause the problem, which can often happen on the showroom floor if the bowl isn't drained.
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Now,in regards to "Black" Honda Dreams!!!Why are they so popular with the locals?
Recently I had my Phantom in for a service and rented a Dream for a few days.Well,what a heap of shit,no power and "NO BRAKES". And I see here that the Dreams are $1800 +.
So why are they in such demand and the first bike to be stolen out of all?
Recently I had my Phantom in for a service and rented a Dream for a few days.Well,what a heap of shit,no power and "NO BRAKES". And I see here that the Dreams are $1800 +.
So why are they in such demand and the first bike to be stolen out of all?
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