PP Post - Work Permits to be enforced by MOI & MOL
Re: PP Post - Work Permits to be enforced by MOI & MOL
The authorities have been enforcing the laws in Kampot for quite sometime . Talk of it happening in Sihanoukville soon .
This in the PP post today http://www.phnompenhpost.com/national/e ... government
This in the PP post today http://www.phnompenhpost.com/national/e ... government
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It's in the English language Post today. It basically says that will start doing check to ensure that expats have valid work permits, they say the fine for not having them will range from $50 to three months imprisonment for repeat offenders.
From experience when I got my work permit a few years back the fine is $200 for every year from the start of your first business visa. So anyone who hasn't got one it might be an idea to get one next time you renew your passport. I'll bet a pound to a penny that there is no database containing all of the information about holders of business visas. That would make it easy to prove that most of the money is being pocketed.
From experience when I got my work permit a few years back the fine is $200 for every year from the start of your first business visa. So anyone who hasn't got one it might be an idea to get one next time you renew your passport. I'll bet a pound to a penny that there is no database containing all of the information about holders of business visas. That would make it easy to prove that most of the money is being pocketed.
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They look like a little green passport, they wouldn't be hard to knock off.
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What if you don't work or are not employed locally?
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Why are the gods such vicious cunts?
Where is the god of tits and wine?
Why are the gods such vicious cunts?
Where is the god of tits and wine?
GSM will never be the same!GMJS-440 wrote:I want to see who will be in the "jailed for 3 months" repeat offender group.
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Well we knew this was coming, and many of us flagged the issue up on K440 months ago. Those of us working for international companies who do things by the book will already have work permits. On the other hand, those working for the average cheap shit, chiseling Khmer employer won't and will no doubt be left to fend for themselves when the visa cops come knocking. Of course, it all depends whether the powers that be have figured out how to to use information systems and databases - if they've developed one centralized ERP system that has integrated the databases for immigration, visas, work permits etc etc, having a knock off work permit made up at a copy shop won't help much.
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In what area? How many years was he missing? How much did they demand to fix it?GMJS-440 wrote:I can confirm at least 1 person in Phnom Penh has had authorities show up at his doorstep to collect payment for multiple years work permit missed.
No mention of Ordinary Visa holders that don't work here/retired, only about expats employed in Cambodia.
I'm not a negative person, I encourage people all the time...it's usually to f**k off! But, whatever.
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Can you still get a business visa if you don't have a regular job here?
I've tried starting a few business projects here, but to no avail.
I was always let down or cheated, and mostly by fellow barangs actually.
Much harder than I thought doing one man entrepreneurship these parts.
I am living off checks from my grandma' at the moment.
I've tried starting a few business projects here, but to no avail.
I was always let down or cheated, and mostly by fellow barangs actually.
Much harder than I thought doing one man entrepreneurship these parts.
I am living off checks from my grandma' at the moment.
They call it the "normal" visa nowadays.eurothrash wrote:Can you still get a business visa if you don't have a regular job here?
I doubt that they care whether you actually work or not, I believe it's more on the lines that the visa is for allowing people to work and stay for longer durations meaning that you need to have the legal possibility to work here. The work permit gives you that legal possibility, hence it's pretty reasonable that it would be a dependency for the visa.
I very much doubt that you'll be deported for having a visa and work permit but no job. Having a job is not a requirement to stay but having the possibility to have a job is the requirement, and it costs $100.
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And hardly surprising given what a cash cow this could become. If you've had many years of working sans permit, I'd consider going to Thailand and getting a new passport after "accidentally" damaging or losing your current one. There's practically zero chance that any of the previous years work permits have been entered into a database.GMJS-440 wrote:I will let you know when I find out how it was resolved.qq wrote:In what area? How many years was he missing? How much did they demand to fix it?GMJS-440 wrote:I can confirm at least 1 person in Phnom Penh has had authorities show up at his doorstep to collect payment for multiple years work permit missed.
It does seem they will go to find people regardless of employment status as they went to his home not to his place of employ.
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as far as we interpret this - it seems totally directed to those who WORK...
and nowhere does it seem to implicate or include any other "group" of expats...
eg. "retirees", or others who choose NOT to work...
thus, such folks will remain in some lurid limbo - still unsure of their status...
as far as we interpret this - it seems totally directed to those who WORK...
and nowhere does it seem to implicate or include any other "group" of expats...
eg. "retirees", or others who choose NOT to work...
thus, such folks will remain in some lurid limbo - still unsure of their status...
Expatriates working in Cambodia without labour identification cards will face fines and even jail when strict new enforcement kicks in, according to a July 16 joint statement from the ministries of interior and labour.
Government inspectors, the statement adds, will begin checking workplaces immediately in order to fully enforce a law the ministries say has rarely been enforced.
Under that law, employers, the statement adds, must provide ID cards to expatriates, separate to their visas.
“We want to implement this more effectively, because ASEAN integration in 2015 will strengthen the need for expatriate jobs,” a Ministry of Labour officer said on condition of anonymity.
“By law, if they do not have labour IDs, they will be fined 200,000 to 500,000 riel [$50 to $125],” he said, adding that in extreme cases or for repeat offences, they could be jailed for up to three months.
All relevant authorities should “implement this joint declaration effective immediately”, the statement reads.
The unnamed ministry officer said that one reason behind announcement was “to collect revenue for the government”. Labour IDs for foreign workers cost $100.
Heng Sour, spokesman for the Ministry of Labour, could not be reached for comment.
Yov Khemara, director of the labour department in Preah Sihanouk province, said his province had issued 432 expatriate labour IDs to workplaces over the past three years.
“We will cooperate even more after this new announcement, because after the General Department of Immigration is created, they will urge the job to be fully implemented,” he said.
The department was established in April and operates out of the Ministry of Interior.
Chao Mao Virak, deputy police chief in charge of immigration in Siem Reap province, said his police officers had not yet implemented the joint statement’s orders.
“What I can say is that we have more than 1,000 expats working in Siem Reap, but I don’t know if all of them have working cards,” he said.
“It’s not new work. It’s all in the law that we have to implement it,” he said.
According to immigration law, the Ministry of Interior has “the right to expel any foreigner coming to work in Cambodia without a labour ID”.
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