So https://www.proxpn.com/ is the same as https://www.proxpn.com/[b]?hid=4&htid=1 ... d=1014#how[/b]Phuket2006 wrote:my link is the direct link to the website,spencerboy wrote:Possibly a referral link, as in he gets money for introducing people.
Possibly. Might not be.
no referral.
dump ur cache and try again.
VPN's (Virtual Private Networks)
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I run my own VPN which is "always on" I have a server in NZ that my phone VPN routes through by default, as do my laptop and other devices.
Also then have the work VPN.
Honestly its a bit of a mugs game with VPNs... I could set up and run a very secure VPN from anywhere in the world in a few minutes, and it would cost next to nothing...
But I'm also lucky enough to have that knowledge.
Also then have the work VPN.
Honestly its a bit of a mugs game with VPNs... I could set up and run a very secure VPN from anywhere in the world in a few minutes, and it would cost next to nothing...
But I'm also lucky enough to have that knowledge.
This is sort of in the "You Need to Take their word for it" category but looking at their Policies is important. "Torrent Freak " conducts a survey every year on VPN policies. Here is a link to this year's survey: http://torrentfreak.com/which-vpn-servi ... on-140315/
This is a good read as well as are the comments section. Particiapaton of Companies in the survey is voluntary, but it is generally assumed that companies that do not reply, have something to hide.
The questions:
1. Do you keep ANY logs which would allow you to match an IP-address and a time stamp to a user of your service? If so, exactly what information do you hold and for how long?
2. Under what jurisdictions does your company operate and under what exact circumstances will you share the information you hold with a 3rd party?
3. What tools are used to monitor and mitigate abuse of your service?
4. In the event you receive a DMCA takedown notice or European equivalent, how are these handled?
5. What steps are taken when a valid court order requires your company to identify an active user of your service?
6. Is BitTorrent and other file-sharing traffic allowed on all servers? If not, why?
7. Which payment systems do you use and how are these linked to individual user accounts?
8. What is the most secure VPN connection and encryption algorithm you would recommend to your users?
This is a good read as well as are the comments section. Particiapaton of Companies in the survey is voluntary, but it is generally assumed that companies that do not reply, have something to hide.
The questions:
1. Do you keep ANY logs which would allow you to match an IP-address and a time stamp to a user of your service? If so, exactly what information do you hold and for how long?
2. Under what jurisdictions does your company operate and under what exact circumstances will you share the information you hold with a 3rd party?
3. What tools are used to monitor and mitigate abuse of your service?
4. In the event you receive a DMCA takedown notice or European equivalent, how are these handled?
5. What steps are taken when a valid court order requires your company to identify an active user of your service?
6. Is BitTorrent and other file-sharing traffic allowed on all servers? If not, why?
7. Which payment systems do you use and how are these linked to individual user accounts?
8. What is the most secure VPN connection and encryption algorithm you would recommend to your users?
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You mean to re-sell to other users or for your own use?johnnyj wrote:I run my own VPN which is "always on" I have a server in NZ that my phone VPN routes through by default, as do my laptop and other devices.
Also then have the work VPN.
Honestly its a bit of a mugs game with VPNs... I could set up and run a very secure VPN from anywhere in the world in a few minutes, and it would cost next to nothing...
But I'm also lucky enough to have that knowledge.
Well yes that is an option but why not just get a free one or pay less than $100pa for someone else to run it!
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Rain Dog wrote:This is from their TOS:MaybeMove2PP wrote:Care to elaborate? I ask because I had no such intrusion when subscribing.Rain Dog wrote:...
They are also a pain to do business with, with their very intrusive verification process.
"In order to serve our legitimate customers, like yourself, with a VPN network that is free from troubles/downtime we have employed a stringent Anti-Fraud Policy. If our anti-fraud system rates your transaction as a 'potential risk', you will be requested to go through a verification process. The mere purpose of asking for such verification is the fact that we need to keep fraudsters away and because we believe you are a genuine customer you will have no issues in choosing from one of the options offered to you e.g. Send us a blank email from non-free email address, Send us any NON-CONFIDENTIAL Document etc."
I attempted to sign up for their 3 day trial before buying. For reasons unknown to me my transaction was flagged as high risk. My best guess is that some vendors flag all Southeast Asian Credit Cards as high risk. Or possibly it is because my Credit Card Issuing Bank and Mailing address is from a country other than Cambodia but I was Signing up from a Cambodian (Or perhaps my ISP was showing a Vietnam) IP. Anyway I got flagged, and then about an hour later I got an email saying I needed to provide them a PAID email address (no yahoo, hotmail, gmail) address or a Scanned copy of a Drivers license or a scanned document such as a utility bill with my name and address on that.
I know they get my particulars from the CC but this still felt WAY to intrusive, and I could not be arsed to be running around to find a scanner to email hem a copy of a document.
Way over the top IMHO --- so I moved on to another vendor without any hassles.
I can say that I was not charged. There are a lot of complaints on the internet about this process and quite a few complain about being charged and never getting a refund.
You can see some complaints here if you scroll down to the comments:
https://www.bestvpn.com/blog/3690/purevpn-review-2/
The Human Justice League out to get you for anti-american activities RD?
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While VPNs are very handy at times, there are actually a couple of security issues with VPNs to consider.
1. A typical home setup has an Internet feed connected to a wired/wireless router. That router that your computer sits behind acts somewhat like a firewall, even if it's not intentionally configured as a firewall. The typical home router configuration keeps some Internet bad guy that's scanning ranges of ports on ranges of IP addresses from seeing your computer. If you use a VPN, your connection gets tunneled through the router, and your computer and all its ports appear at the new IP address, no longer hidden behind your router. In this case, you'll certainly want to make sure you have your ports closed, either via a software firewall on your computer, or just make sure the ports are turned off in such a way that your computer won't respond to a possible attacker's query.
2. Regarding the privacy issue, by using a VPN, you're simply trading who gets to see all your unencrypted traffic. I'll use browsing khmer440 as an example. Right now I'm not using a VPN. Everything I see or post on khmer440 goes through my ISP unencrypted. If someone working at my ISP wanted to, they could read it all. I doubt they would get far before falling asleep. If I decide to use a VPN, my ISP won't be able to read the traffic between me and khmer440 since it is encrypted. However someone working for the VPN provider certainly could. Using a VPN for this purpose simply letting the VPN provider see their stuff rather than the ISP.
VPNs can certainly be useful. Just be aware.
1. A typical home setup has an Internet feed connected to a wired/wireless router. That router that your computer sits behind acts somewhat like a firewall, even if it's not intentionally configured as a firewall. The typical home router configuration keeps some Internet bad guy that's scanning ranges of ports on ranges of IP addresses from seeing your computer. If you use a VPN, your connection gets tunneled through the router, and your computer and all its ports appear at the new IP address, no longer hidden behind your router. In this case, you'll certainly want to make sure you have your ports closed, either via a software firewall on your computer, or just make sure the ports are turned off in such a way that your computer won't respond to a possible attacker's query.
2. Regarding the privacy issue, by using a VPN, you're simply trading who gets to see all your unencrypted traffic. I'll use browsing khmer440 as an example. Right now I'm not using a VPN. Everything I see or post on khmer440 goes through my ISP unencrypted. If someone working at my ISP wanted to, they could read it all. I doubt they would get far before falling asleep. If I decide to use a VPN, my ISP won't be able to read the traffic between me and khmer440 since it is encrypted. However someone working for the VPN provider certainly could. Using a VPN for this purpose simply letting the VPN provider see their stuff rather than the ISP.
VPNs can certainly be useful. Just be aware.
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From a purely security stand point,unless you have set up the other end of the VPN on another computer, surely you still have to put trust in the VPN provider with your data....which kind of defeats the object in the first place doesn't it?? And when your data hits the VPN provider is it no longer encrypted until it leaves that point again?
So for someone like me, who is only concerned about a few passwords, SSL is as good as a VPN as it's encrypted from end point to end point with the only possible man in the middle being the ISP provider?
So for someone like me, who is only concerned about a few passwords, SSL is as good as a VPN as it's encrypted from end point to end point with the only possible man in the middle being the ISP provider?
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This is only true if you're using a home / private network. If you are using public wifi, it is best to use a VPN.spitthedog wrote:From a purely security stand point,unless you have set up the other end of the VPN on another computer, surely you still have to put trust in the VPN provider with your data....which kind of defeats the object in the first place doesn't it?? And when your data hits the VPN provider is it no longer encrypted until it leaves that point again?
So for someone like me, who is only concerned about a few passwords, SSL is as good as a VPN as it's encrypted from end point to end point with the only possible man in the middle being the ISP provider?
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Can someone give me any advantages of using a VPN on public wifi when i'm already logging in on a site with secure ssl ?
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As long as the entire site is encrypted, then your data should be safe (assuming you trust the certificates), but many sites that advertise SSL are only partially encrypted. Don't assume that because your login page says SSL, all data will be transmitted in such a fashion.spitthedog wrote:Can someone give me any advantages of using a VPN on public wifi when i'm already logging in on a site with secure ssl ?
Also, because a hacker using the same wifi as you can view and modify your traffic, you must remember to type the https url in yourself. If you go to a homepage that is not secure, then click a link to get to a secure part of the site, this leaves your traffic open to manipulation.
A VPN is just another layer of protection.
All great info thanks.
Yes, if you're using your own router and you've got SSL/encryption setup then you don't strictly need VPN unless you want to hide your activities from your ISP. Also if you tether/use personal hotspot from your phone then it may be better to use a VPN as some sites are blocked, especially in EU/UK.
It's a simple security measure that will help if you're on a public WiFi.
Also, it will allow you to access country specific websites, usually US based ones. Like Google play.
Yes, if you're using your own router and you've got SSL/encryption setup then you don't strictly need VPN unless you want to hide your activities from your ISP. Also if you tether/use personal hotspot from your phone then it may be better to use a VPN as some sites are blocked, especially in EU/UK.
It's a simple security measure that will help if you're on a public WiFi.
Also, it will allow you to access country specific websites, usually US based ones. Like Google play.
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I`m using purevpn, thnaks to NSA spying scandal, some say it bravery of Edward Snowden and some talking about it as NSA Prism program. Though all are related to one another in a chain that kills people of the USA when they saw, in the name of security, their privacy has been caged.A VPN is left as the only spot to captivate, what has left on the internet?
http://www.bestvpnservice.com/purevpn/
http://www.bestvpnservice.com/purevpn/
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just for my own use, I have the secured servers already in various places around the world, along with (immodestly) better knowledge than 99.9% of the VPN providers in how to secure my traffic should I need to plus I don't have to worry about someone else handing my data over (not that there is anything of interest really, all the NSA are going to see is that I going on K440, do my internet banking and play online games from time to time... except for the Penguin insurgency I'm funding to throw aussies out of the south island of course)YaTingPom wrote:You mean to re-sell to other users or for your own use?johnnyj wrote:I run my own VPN which is "always on" I have a server in NZ that my phone VPN routes through by default, as do my laptop and other devices.
Also then have the work VPN.
Honestly its a bit of a mugs game with VPNs... I could set up and run a very secure VPN from anywhere in the world in a few minutes, and it would cost next to nothing...
But I'm also lucky enough to have that knowledge.
Well yes that is an option but why not just get a free one or pay less than $100pa for someone else to run it!
Most VPN providers aren't really there to provide you with anonymous or secured traffic, they are there so bobby smith can torrent his ladyboy porn and latest hollywood blockbusters without getting caught, susie q so she can watch netflicks from outside the USA but still get her USA content, and, Wang Zhun so he can access google.hk and youtube when he is visiting mainland china.
but really $100 pa is considerably more than $0 and 5 minutes of my time every now and again
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PureVPN is OK but I recommend NordVPN because it has many new features, gives dedicated servers for China...willieaames wrote:I`m using purevpn, thnaks to NSA spying scandal, some say it bravery of Edward Snowden and some talking about it as NSA Prism program. Though all are related to one another in a chain that kills people of the USA when they saw, in the name of security, their privacy has been caged.A VPN is left as the only spot to captivate, what has left on the internet?
https://www.bestvpn.co/best-vpn-for-china/
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