Good observation. On more careful reading it's not clear if there is anything to this or the Daily is trying to spin the LANGO debate up a notch.
The Daily seems to have taken a particularly manipulative turn lately. Been some change there, I wonder.
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I totally agree that their are foreigners organizing protests. There are the same faces turning up at the front of many, including one pikey faced woman who seems keen on agitating local recruits. I saw a few trying to get one going on the riverside last week, they were obviously organizing the transport for a handful of local old yays etc who I doubt very much would have a clue what a Lango is.starkmonster wrote:Cambodia Daily:
https://www.cambodiadaily.com/news/fore ... ays-88853/Though foreigners have seldom been on the frontlines of protests following the disputed July 2013 national election, foreign rights workers have often been among crowds, either as observers or participants.
More absolute horse shit from the Daily. My office is right in between the assembly, the appeals court and the palace which means I see far more protests than most and at some it's clear the foreigners there are the organisers.
Whilst walking to lunch last year I watched an older smartly dressed foreign gentlemen handing out cardboard hats with protest messages out to the Boeng Kak protesters.
There's a lot of foreigners who crossed the line of simply being "observers" a long time back and I think we all know the government theory that foreign powers (one in particular) are providing assistance to groups that would love to see regime change is more fact than theory.
Romantic Cambodia is dead and gone. It's with McKinley in the grave.
I don't have any info about that, but the Daily's Editor in Chief (Colin Meyn) is on the byline of the article, so maybe it does have some legs. Still, actions of a government official don't always equate to government policy, and it's important to distinguish between "government officials in their official capacity" and government officials just talking.LTO wrote:Good observation. On more careful reading it's not clear if there is anything to this or the Daily is trying to spin the LANGO debate up a notch.
The Daily seems to have taken a particularly manipulative turn lately. Been some change there, I wonder.
Have any other news outlets published anything on this?
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There is one of those say no to NGO law signs posted outside a villa just down my street here in TTP.
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I don't know if this is becoming a theme, but I saw this article today:
Five Arrested Over Anti-NGO Law Leaflets
https://www.cambodiadaily.com/news/five ... lets-88882
The article begins with a sentence that supports the headline, where handing out leaflets got some people arrested:
But back on to the topic, in my understanding Cambodia's laws on protesting are pretty clear. There's something called the Law on Peaceful Demonstrations that spells out the rules, and the UN has a handy guide (in leaflet form, no less) on what the procedure is to hold a protest. You have to notify the authorities, but they have to respond with an OK unless there are exceptional circumstances (and they have to give an explanation).
http://cambodia.ohchr.org/WebDOCs/DocPr ... 13_Eng.pdf
Per Dimanche's quotes they were arrested because they didn't have permission to protest. Maybe permission was asked for per procedure but it was not given (in which case the government is supposed to give a very good reason why), maybe it wasn't asked for at all, maybe it was granted and the police arrested people taking part in a legal protest. Unfortunately these relevant pieces of information aren't reported on.
Five Arrested Over Anti-NGO Law Leaflets
https://www.cambodiadaily.com/news/five ... lets-88882
The article begins with a sentence that supports the headline, where handing out leaflets got some people arrested:
Except when they interview Dimanche, the PP city spokesman, he says they were arrested for protesting in public without permission and for holding up traffic. The only quote about the leaflets from him is a goofy one about how some people who read the leaflets were littering, though apparently the police also asked the arrestees who was behind the protest and had them promise to stop handing out the leaflets."Authorities in Phnom Penh arrested and released five activists on Saturday for handing out leaflets urging residents to “Say No” to a pending NGO law that critics fear will be used to muzzle critics of the ruling CPP."
But back on to the topic, in my understanding Cambodia's laws on protesting are pretty clear. There's something called the Law on Peaceful Demonstrations that spells out the rules, and the UN has a handy guide (in leaflet form, no less) on what the procedure is to hold a protest. You have to notify the authorities, but they have to respond with an OK unless there are exceptional circumstances (and they have to give an explanation).
http://cambodia.ohchr.org/WebDOCs/DocPr ... 13_Eng.pdf
Per Dimanche's quotes they were arrested because they didn't have permission to protest. Maybe permission was asked for per procedure but it was not given (in which case the government is supposed to give a very good reason why), maybe it wasn't asked for at all, maybe it was granted and the police arrested people taking part in a legal protest. Unfortunately these relevant pieces of information aren't reported on.
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Shouldn't the wonderful "culture of dialogue" involve Rainsy politely asking HE for permission? What IS the CNRP leadership doing re. the LANGO bill?
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andyinasia wrote:Shouldn't the wonderful "culture of dialogue" involve Rainsy politely asking HE for permission? What IS the CNRP leadership doing re. the LANGO bill?
Silent because should they win in 2018 they can use the same law to jail pro CPP protestors and movements....Yuon groups, etc..
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Agreed, the CNRP isn't that bothered about the law, the way to know what they are thinking is to read what they are saying in Khmer, not English. They haven't really been making much noise about the law in Khmer.
I think the CNRP also isn't that keen on a lot of these right-wing splinter groups and professional protesters as they've stopped taking orders from CNRP central command.
I think the CNRP also isn't that keen on a lot of these right-wing splinter groups and professional protesters as they've stopped taking orders from CNRP central command.
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