Good Because I can lie on my belly or good that it is protruding?jackrossi wrote:Good so ernia is less likely.
Why did you ask about the protruding belly?
Post by nightmare.believer » Sun Aug 02, 2015 11:53 pm
Good Because I can lie on my belly or good that it is protruding?jackrossi wrote:Good so ernia is less likely.
Post by jackrossi » Mon Aug 03, 2015 12:08 am
Post by jackrossi » Mon Aug 03, 2015 12:25 am
Post by This Charming Man » Mon Aug 03, 2015 9:41 am
Post by Kachang » Mon Aug 03, 2015 9:42 am
The problem isn't kidney disease, it's liver necrosis.gavinmac wrote:That's not a polarised view. It discusses the effect of chronic tylenol use with chronic alcohol use. No one's going to get kidney disease from taking tylenol for a few days while also drinking.EdinWigan wrote: But it really depends on the dose taken, also the article directly above your Google search, offers a polarised view:
http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/addi ... y-suggests
It is all to easy to search Google for stuff to support any argument we want to support.
Post by gavinmac » Mon Aug 03, 2015 9:46 am
I don't even have to read those articles about liver failure to know that they dealt with chronic Tylenol use/abuse, not someone taking Tylenol for a few days for back pain a few days after drinking. Don't act like you've saved his life or anything.Kachang wrote:The problem isn't kidney disease, it's liver necrosis.gavinmac wrote:That's not a polarised view. It discusses the effect of chronic tylenol use with chronic alcohol use. No one's going to get kidney disease from taking tylenol for a few days while also drinking.EdinWigan wrote: But it really depends on the dose taken, also the article directly above your Google search, offers a polarised view:
http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/addi ... y-suggests
It is all to easy to search Google for stuff to support any argument we want to support.
It's all about the dose taken, and the current condition of the liver. If you take one Tylenol in the morning and have a beer at night you most probably won't suffer acute liver failure / necrosis, but if you go through the thread and through the numbers OP provided - this isn't the case with OP.
Why don't you google beyond the first (sponsored?) links google provided you, and read the study 11 international doctors did in 2005? Their conclusion: the biggest cause of liver failure in the USA and the UK in 2005 was the use / abuse of Tylenol or similar non branded medicines. Mortality rate after the occurrence: 35% (in the USA), 8% needed a liver transplant. 7% of the cases took tylenol in same amount (<= 4000 mg a day) the OP was planning to do. Of those, 69% 'used' (as opposed to 'abused') Tylenol with alcohol. No relation?
Post by Kachang » Mon Aug 03, 2015 9:47 am
OP seems to prefer being crammed in a small airplane seat for 17 hours over seeing a doc here.....jackrossi wrote:Good because lying down makes your condition improve regardless of the position. If the back pain persist when lying down with minimal changes is a big red flag. I asked also because if it is an ernia you are very likely to have much more pain on one side than the other but if your belly is very protruding it makes the test less telling because your spine will have a similar position as when you are in the fetal position. I could have asked you to lie down and arch your back backwards a bit like a seal but it sounds even more weird. (Can't do it standing up of course).
Is your pain worse when sitting properly straight or standing? What happens if someone touches that spot? Instant pain feedback or not much?
You can do a ct scan with contrast liquid in order to find out if you actually have an inflammation of the sacroiliac joints.
Just ask to a any decent doctor for a
"ct scan with contrast liquid for rule out a sacroiliac inflammation"
In French (if anyone speaks French please help) just let him read it from the phone.
Its quite visual and routine so I don't see a Khmer doctor failing at it unless he is really a tool.
I guess from 40$ to 100$ here? Maybe cheaper? Anyway make sure the last they do use the contrast liquid or it takes a quite skilled doctor to indentify the problem.
Post by spitthedog » Mon Aug 03, 2015 9:49 am
Kachang wrote:The problem isn't kidney disease, it's liver necrosis.gavinmac wrote:That's not a polarised view. It discusses the effect of chronic tylenol use with chronic alcohol use. No one's going to get kidney disease from taking tylenol for a few days while also drinking.EdinWigan wrote: But it really depends on the dose taken, also the article directly above your Google search, offers a polarised view:
http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/addi ... y-suggests
It is all to easy to search Google for stuff to support any argument we want to support.
It's all about the dose taken, and the current condition of the liver. If you take one Tylenol in the morning and have a beer at night you most probably won't suffer acute liver failure / necrosis, but if you go through the thread and through the numbers OP provided - this isn't the case with OP.
Why don't you google beyond the first (sponsored?) links google provided you, and read the study 11 international doctors did in 2005? Their conclusion: the biggest cause of liver failure in the USA and the UK in 2005 was the use / abuse of Tylenol or similar non branded medicines. Mortality rate after the occurrence: 35% (in the USA), 8% needed a liver transplant. 7% of the cases took tylenol in same amount (<= 4000 mg a day) the OP was planning to do. Of those, 69% 'used' (as opposed to 'abused') Tylenol with alcohol. No relation?
Post by wackyjacky » Mon Aug 03, 2015 10:26 am
Post by EdinWigan » Mon Aug 03, 2015 1:44 pm
Kachang wrote:The problem isn't kidney disease, it's liver necrosis.gavinmac wrote:That's not a polarised view. It discusses the effect of chronic tylenol use with chronic alcohol use. No one's going to get kidney disease from taking tylenol for a few days while also drinking.EdinWigan wrote: But it really depends on the dose taken, also the article directly above your Google search, offers a polarised view:
http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/addi ... y-suggests
It is all to easy to search Google for stuff to support any argument we want to support.
It's all about the dose taken, and the current condition of the liver. If you take one Tylenol in the morning and have a beer at night you most probably won't suffer acute liver failure / necrosis, but if you go through the thread and through the numbers OP provided - this isn't the case with OP.
Why don't you google beyond the first (sponsored?) links google provided you, and read the study 11 international doctors did in 2005? Their conclusion: the biggest cause of liver failure in the USA and the UK in 2005 was the use / abuse of Tylenol or similar non branded medicines. Mortality rate after the occurrence: 35% (in the USA), 8% needed a liver transplant. 7% of the cases took tylenol in same amount (<= 4000 mg a day) the OP was planning to do. Of those, 69% 'used' (as opposed to 'abused') Tylenol with alcohol. No relation?
Post by nightmare.believer » Mon Aug 03, 2015 1:48 pm
Post by violet » Mon Aug 03, 2015 3:09 pm