Gender discrimination in employment practices
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Is there any age limit for foreign male teachers in Khmer Land?
A not-so-distant neighbour teaches in rural Thailand, for the past 6 years or so. He told me that some sort of exception was made for him (maybe good looks ?)
He only teaches 6 months in a year, because it's too cold for him here.
He's about 70 and looked really creepy before he shaved his long beard (he was told to shave it). But for a fact he is weird, not sure if I would trust him with my mother... .
Even my female friends freaked out seeing his photos.
A not-so-distant neighbour teaches in rural Thailand, for the past 6 years or so. He told me that some sort of exception was made for him (maybe good looks ?)
He only teaches 6 months in a year, because it's too cold for him here.
He's about 70 and looked really creepy before he shaved his long beard (he was told to shave it). But for a fact he is weird, not sure if I would trust him with my mother... .
Even my female friends freaked out seeing his photos.
How does one advertise for staff to work in a PP girlie bar - 'We are an equal opportunity employer - both men and women considered for the position. But must look good in a skirt' ........????
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But the question remains how a school in Cambodia could efficiently do these "background checks".vladimir wrote: The only thing we need to try and ensure, to the best of our ability, is the safety of the children.
With the present unwillingness/inability of many schools to do CRCs we need to do what we can to help.
No civilized country on this planet will hand over security relevant/private data to some fuckin' shit school in Camboland. And if you turned upside down kicking your legs you wouldn't get the data.
Advocatus Diaboli wrote:But the question remains how a school in Cambodia could efficiently do these "background checks".vladimir wrote: The only thing we need to try and ensure, to the best of our ability, is the safety of the children.
With the present unwillingness/inability of many schools to do CRCs we need to do what we can to help.
No civilized country on this planet will hand over security relevant/private data to some fuckin' shit school in Camboland. And if you turned upside down kicking your legs you wouldn't get the data.
In the case of Paul Prestidge, Hope International School clearly hadn't even asked to see his passport and had him on their roster as Paul Evans. Simply asking for proof of ID like a passport and a simple Google search would have shown he was on the run on paedophile charges.
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1. It's easy to check on Americans...so, yeah.Advocatus Diaboli wrote:But the question remains how a school in Cambodia could efficiently do these "background checks".vladimir wrote: The only thing we need to try and ensure, to the best of our ability, is the safety of the children.
With the present unwillingness/inability of many schools to do CRCs we need to do what we can to help.
No civilized country on this planet will hand over security relevant/private data to some fuckin' shit school in Camboland. And if you turned upside down kicking your legs you wouldn't get the data.
2. I think any country would turn over data if you fulfilled the requirements, ie a signed agreement to undergo checks by the person being checked. Refusal to sign should be automatic disqualification and further checks, imo.
The biggest problem is sometimes getting the school to go to the hassle of doing it. In addition, I think you would be surprised at the number of schools who would hire people with a history of rugs/violent crime etc regardless, simply because they are cheap.
ירי ילדים והפצצת אזרחים דורש אומץ, כמו גם הטרדה מינית של עובדי ההוראה.
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I said "civilized" With Americans it's indeed easier, but normally you have to pay for such services, and not every applicant is American.vladimir wrote: 1. It's easy to check on Americans...so, yeah.
Wrong.....in Europe such agreements would be null and void. The applicant would have to apply for a clearance certificate in person. If the applicant is in Cambodia he/she could theoretically go through his/her Embassy.....but it's expensive and very, very time consuming. By the time you get the certificate the job is gone. The certificate itself is only valid for a couple of month.vladimir wrote:2. I think any country would turn over data if you fulfilled the requirements, ie a signed agreement to undergo checks by the person being checked. Refusal to sign should be automatic disqualification and further checks, imo.
I'm not surprised.vladimir wrote:In addition, I think you would be surprised at the number of schools who would hire people with a history of rugs/violent crime etc regardless, simply because they are cheap.
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Yes, I agree.....that should have been done. On the other hand asking for an ID is not really a security check.scobienz wrote: In the case of Paul Prestidge, Hope International School clearly hadn't even asked to see his passport and had him on their roster as Paul Evans. Simply asking for proof of ID like a passport and a simple Google search would have shown he was on the run on paedophile charges.
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Hahahavladimir wrote: In addition, I think you would be surprised at the number of schools who would hire people with a history of rugs/violent crime etc regardless, simply because they are cheap.
vladimir made a typo. Let's make a big deal about it and forever talk about teachers with rug problems
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I've hardly seen any foreign teacher without a "rug" problem. Perhaps you shouldn't hire them AT ALL (male and female).alanclarke72 wrote: Hahaha
vladimir made a typo. Let's make a big deal about it and forever talk about teachers with rug problems
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I don't think the schools should have to do the checks themselves. It should be a requirement when applying for the job to provide current CRC's from all countries lived in.
The government could make it easy by having a "working with children/vulnerable people" permit. Then the state can oversee the documents and the schools only need to site their government issued one.
The government could make it easy by having a "working with children/vulnerable people" permit. Then the state can oversee the documents and the schools only need to site their government issued one.
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Which government ? The Cambodian ? Your name could be Ted Bundy and you would get such a clearance from the Cambodians.Gin&Tonic wrote: The government could make it easy by having a "working with children/vulnerable people" permit. Then the state can oversee the documents and the schools only need to site their government issued one.
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In that case you could wear a VW Bonnet to hide your rug...(please, no emissions jokes)Advocatus Diaboli wrote:Which government ? The Cambodian ? Your name could be Ted Bundy and you would get such a clearance from the Cambodians.Gin&Tonic wrote: The government could make it easy by having a "working with children/vulnerable people" permit. Then the state can oversee the documents and the schools only need to site their government issued one.
I think a CRC from one 's own country, rechecked here, same as they do in Korea.
I don't think we should forget about the hundreds of other non-teaching expats who can also easily create contacts to abuse children, in Cambodia, it's almost as easy to do this as when one is in a classroom.
It would be interesting to see the stats of paedos, how many were not teachers?
ירי ילדים והפצצת אזרחים דורש אומץ, כמו גם הטרדה מינית של עובדי ההוראה.
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Obviously I was inferring that the government would check your documents were in order before giving such a permit.Advocatus Diaboli wrote:Which government ? The Cambodian ? Your name could be Ted Bundy and you would get such a clearance from the Cambodians.Gin&Tonic wrote: The government could make it easy by having a "working with children/vulnerable people" permit. Then the state can oversee the documents and the schools only need to site their government issued one.
I also hardly see how having the name Ted Bundy would exclude someone if there CRC were clean. Unless you were trying to be funny by suggesting a long dead murderer would rise again to teach English in Cambodia.
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You are inferring too much, don't you think.Gin&Tonic wrote: Obviously I was inferring that the government would check your documents were in order before giving such a permit.
That WAS funny, because..................ahh, forget it.Gin&Tonic wrote: Unless you were trying to be funny...
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