'Political Analyst' Dr Kem Ley Shot Dead in Star Mart
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Excellent. Back to Facebook and Pokemon Go it is
Not over yet, Choup Somlap still has to have his trial and his motives have to be proven. He's still sticking by the $3000 loan grudge reason, and still calling himself 'Choup Somlap'
From today's Cambodia Daily:
"even Sok Touch, a government-aligned researcher who joined the day’s ceremonies in Takeo, said the state would have to satisfy the public’s sense of justice or face the consequences in the 2018 national election.
“If the Royal Government does not find the criminal behind it and does not give a clear explanation, the people will be the court. The people’s court happens every five years, so it needs to find the truth for the young generation,” he told reporters."
https://www.cambodiadaily.com/news/kem- ... ay-115887/
From today's Cambodia Daily:
"even Sok Touch, a government-aligned researcher who joined the day’s ceremonies in Takeo, said the state would have to satisfy the public’s sense of justice or face the consequences in the 2018 national election.
“If the Royal Government does not find the criminal behind it and does not give a clear explanation, the people will be the court. The people’s court happens every five years, so it needs to find the truth for the young generation,” he told reporters."
https://www.cambodiadaily.com/news/kem- ... ay-115887/
Everybody else is still calling him Choup Somlap long after he's been identified.Rama wrote:still calling himself 'Choup Somlap'
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Good question. Feels like the end to me, but I don't know if ther are plans for further demonstrations or other events. Maybe they will try to tie demonstrations to the investigation results or trial or something like that, but I haven't heard of anything yet. Or maybe ramp up the Black Monday thing. Politically/social unrest-wise, still feels like a mid-election lull to me, with this something of a temporary teaser of things to come in 2018. And talk of 'finding justice' and the impact on the next election and such is just so much political blah blah without further action now or in the immediate future. Sure, they can probaly make some political hay over his death come next election, but it'll be just one more thing n the pile, and the happenings then, whatever they are, will be related more to the elections than this particular event. So I guess the question for me is, anything concrete planned for the immediate future - demostrations or whatever? Any market talk or scuttlebutt about 'growing unrest,' coups, or something like that?alanclarke72 wrote:Excellent. Back to Facebook and Pokemon Go it is
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No noise at all LTO.
The only way for the opposition to have properly leveraged the procession would have been for Kem Sokha to have come out and stood with the people, in the way of 'saving the country' that Rainsy promised from Seoul airport but signally failed to do.
But - let's be real - that was clearly never going to happen.
Once again, a big opportunity missed, and the engaged members of the procession (and I use that term on purpose because I suspect half were bored kids and motodops along for the ride) are once again left dangling by a weak, disjointed opposition.
The only way for the opposition to have properly leveraged the procession would have been for Kem Sokha to have come out and stood with the people, in the way of 'saving the country' that Rainsy promised from Seoul airport but signally failed to do.
But - let's be real - that was clearly never going to happen.
Once again, a big opportunity missed, and the engaged members of the procession (and I use that term on purpose because I suspect half were bored kids and motodops along for the ride) are once again left dangling by a weak, disjointed opposition.
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It has happened before - I mean, a weak opposition & an unpopular incumbent. Bojee Bo, it has happened many a time. Many a time. The opposition is not so much weak, as divided. Yes, that is that is just the word I would use - divided. Now, when an opposition (such as it is) is spread everywhere except where it should be, when the so-called leader of the protracted coup is cooped up in Gay Paris (yes, I've checked how that should be spelt) it sends a message of weakness throughout the populace.
But the question should be: weakness for whom? Well, weakness for the 'supporters' who tread the tread and get shot at and get kicked down; weakness for the troubadours and the bloggers and the holier-than-thou ranters for (and against) 'true' democracy.
But, the Song Remains the Same, I suspect. Those very ranters for 'true' democracy will find that their Devil-you-don't-know will assuredly prove more dangerous than the Devil-you-do. An opinion, which will, no doubt, be shot down in flames. But there you go - if we can't have an opinion (however 'wrong') you can't have democracy!
But the question should be: weakness for whom? Well, weakness for the 'supporters' who tread the tread and get shot at and get kicked down; weakness for the troubadours and the bloggers and the holier-than-thou ranters for (and against) 'true' democracy.
But, the Song Remains the Same, I suspect. Those very ranters for 'true' democracy will find that their Devil-you-don't-know will assuredly prove more dangerous than the Devil-you-do. An opinion, which will, no doubt, be shot down in flames. But there you go - if we can't have an opinion (however 'wrong') you can't have democracy!
'History is a set of lies agreed upon.'
Attributed to Napoleon
Attributed to Napoleon
I don't know how many of you are on Twitter, but someone - presumably a supporter - created a @KemLeyofficial twitter account after his death and is tweeting regularly. I dunno - that seems a bit weird and disrespectful to me.
Venerable But Buntenh, an activist monk, member of The Kem Ley funeral committee, and also the monk who identified Choup Somlap as Oeuth Ang by means of his Facebook page and followers https://www.cambodiadaily.com/archives/ ... es-115550/
Has gone into hiding http://m.phnompenhpost.com/national/act ... ays-friend after receiving an anonymous tip off that the police were coming to arrest him. It seems like the crime he is going to be accused of is embezzling $30,000 from the funeral donations to Kem Ley's family http://kampucheathmey.com/2016/archives/335945 (the last paragraph of that article also restates the claim about Kem Ley having other wifes and children)
Has gone into hiding http://m.phnompenhpost.com/national/act ... ays-friend after receiving an anonymous tip off that the police were coming to arrest him. It seems like the crime he is going to be accused of is embezzling $30,000 from the funeral donations to Kem Ley's family http://kampucheathmey.com/2016/archives/335945 (the last paragraph of that article also restates the claim about Kem Ley having other wifes and children)
I'd seen people tweeting this but hadn't seen any news websites reporting it until today: http://www.cnc.com.kh/news/component/k2 ... 7-06-07-30This Charming Man wrote:Government spokespeople are now saying the number of people who joined the funeral procession was in the 'hundreds'. That's as ridiculous as saying there were 2 million.
A leaked Interior Ministry report based upon counting vehicles (trucks, cars, pickup trucks), tuk-tuks, and motorbikes has concluded that 7,700 people joined the procession. The report says that their were 210 vehicles and they allow 20 people in each vehicle = 4200 people (I guess that's an average made allowing for more in trucks and less in cars), 300 tuk-tuks x 5 in each = 1,500 and 1,000 motorbikes with 2 people on a bike = 2,000.
The article then goes on to talk about distances, road width etc. And finishes by saying that this finding isn't meant as disrespect to Kem Ley, his family and mourners but as a mathematical calculation rebutting Radio Free Asia's count of 2 million.
You can trust the media to get it right.
Both ends are ridiculous. The government actually sounds more credible for once. 2000000 lol
Both ends are ridiculous. The government actually sounds more credible for once. 2000000 lol
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Seems legit.
Romantic Cambodia is dead and gone. It's with McKinley in the grave.
Rasmei Kampuchea's headline today is
Venerable But Buntenh Has Fled into Thailand.
Yesterday on their website they had an article http://www.rasmeinews.com/local/YjEyNGQ2MT/18 reporting that the monk had fled to Thailand after being tipped off that the police were coming for him, and that he had told local media yesterday morning that he was in Thailand for medical treatment. No mention of the allegation of embezzling funds from Kem Ley's funeral donations.
Today they mention the allegation of embezzling funds and have published a photo of him in a Starbucks drinking coffee.
Venerable But Buntenh Has Fled into Thailand.
Yesterday on their website they had an article http://www.rasmeinews.com/local/YjEyNGQ2MT/18 reporting that the monk had fled to Thailand after being tipped off that the police were coming for him, and that he had told local media yesterday morning that he was in Thailand for medical treatment. No mention of the allegation of embezzling funds from Kem Ley's funeral donations.
Today they mention the allegation of embezzling funds and have published a photo of him in a Starbucks drinking coffee.
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