APLE; and the lack of decency with underage girls
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How does a Russian-French guy find you and ask for your help in sending photos of a 12 year old for him to rape? I've been visiting Cambodia off and on for some 13 years, and that's never happened to me.
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Perhaps I am being dense here but I still don't quite get the complaint about APLE. They answered the phone, the spoke English and they took all your info, yes? But you didn't like their attitude? Or something more?
Trying to understand in part because I had a problem reporting something similar to an NGO here a few years back, but they couldn't be bothered to even take the info. Whereas it sounds like APLE did do all of the relevant things for you. What more exactly were you expecting of them?
Trying to understand in part because I had a problem reporting something similar to an NGO here a few years back, but they couldn't be bothered to even take the info. Whereas it sounds like APLE did do all of the relevant things for you. What more exactly were you expecting of them?
Sounds to me that Walker Texas Ranger here wanted a cookie or be called in on the case...LTO wrote:Perhaps I am being dense here but I still don't quite get the complaint about APLE. They answered the phone, the spoke English and they took all your info, yes? But you didn't like their attitude? Or something more?
Trying to understand in part because I had a problem reporting something similar to an NGO here a few years back, but they couldn't be bothered to even take the info. Whereas it sounds like APLE did do all of the relevant things for you. What more exactly were you expecting of them?
I guess the APLE people didn't sound excited enough to him.
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Hi Gavin,gavinmac wrote:How does a Russian-French guy find you and ask for your help in sending photos of a 12 year old for him to rape? I've been visiting Cambodia off and on for some 13 years, and that's never happened to me.
He's literally a "friend of a friend of a friend of a friend" etc etc etc etc etc
He only knows that two of my friends own girlie/hostess bars which is why he asked me the question. Otherwise, of course, most creepy guys would have just done their creepy stuffy on their own time and never bothered me with it.
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Joon wrote:Sounds to me that Walker Texas Ranger here wanted a cookie or be called in on the case...LTO wrote:Perhaps I am being dense here but I still don't quite get the complaint about APLE. They answered the phone, the spoke English and they took all your info, yes? But you didn't like their attitude? Or something more?
Trying to understand in part because I had a problem reporting something similar to an NGO here a few years back, but they couldn't be bothered to even take the info. Whereas it sounds like APLE did do all of the relevant things for you. What more exactly were you expecting of them?
I guess the APLE people didn't sound excited enough to him.
Have you been raped as a 12-year old girl?
You have a big-mouth, madam. And you definitely have no respect for rape victims.
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unfortunately there is no crime UNTIL its a crime in Cambodia
TO bad he is not American as he could be arrested just for traveling to Cambodia to do what u say he is going to do.
I see u respond to this asked by gav but still....seems like a strange request to ask a total stranger ans how would he know the people you know,
"....He only knows that two of my friends own girlie/hostess bars..."
ON the other side,I am with Gav,why would you even be associated with this and why would he ask u for photos? Just cause u live in Cambodia and he knew ur wfe ?? is this all to the story
TO bad he is not American as he could be arrested just for traveling to Cambodia to do what u say he is going to do.
I see u respond to this asked by gav but still....seems like a strange request to ask a total stranger ans how would he know the people you know,
"....He only knows that two of my friends own girlie/hostess bars..."
ON the other side,I am with Gav,why would you even be associated with this and why would he ask u for photos? Just cause u live in Cambodia and he knew ur wfe ?? is this all to the story
....I came across a "friend of a friend of a friend of a friend of a friend" type of scenario .... He specifically asked me for photos of any potential vics not knowing....He only knew my wife and didn't know....
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How do you know he is not an informant testing whether you would do such a thing?Cadillac Jack wrote:Hi Gavin,gavinmac wrote:How does a Russian-French guy find you and ask for your help in sending photos of a 12 year old for him to rape? I've been visiting Cambodia off and on for some 13 years, and that's never happened to me.
He's literally a "friend of a friend of a friend of a friend" etc etc etc etc etc
He only knows that two of my friends own girlie/hostess bars which is why he asked me the question. Otherwise, of course, most creepy guys would have just done their creepy stuffy on their own time and never bothered me with it.
Assuming the story is true, it sounds a bit like that to me too. Like he was expecting them to keep him informed or tell him their plans or, as you say, get as excited as he was, which as an ex-copper he should know that is not the way it works.Joon wrote:Sounds to me that Walker Texas Ranger here wanted a cookie or be called in on the case...LTO wrote:Perhaps I am being dense here but I still don't quite get the complaint about APLE. They answered the phone, the spoke English and they took all your info, yes? But you didn't like their attitude? Or something more?
Trying to understand in part because I had a problem reporting something similar to an NGO here a few years back, but they couldn't be bothered to even take the info. Whereas it sounds like APLE did do all of the relevant things for you. What more exactly were you expecting of them?
I guess the APLE people didn't sound excited enough to him.
And his reluctance to give a straight and clear answer is rather suspicious. Not very Texas either.
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Hello Phuket,Phuket2006 wrote:unfortunately there is no crime UNTIL its a crime in Cambodia
TO bad he is not American as he could be arrested just for traveling to Cambodia to do what u say he is going to do.
ON the other side,I am with Gav,why would you even be associated with this and why would he ask u for photos? Just cause u live in Cambodia and he knew ur wfe ?? is this all to the story
....I came across a "friend of a friend of a friend of a friend of a friend" type of scenario .... He specifically asked me for photos of any potential vics not knowing....He only knew my wife and didn't know....
Perfectly valid points.
However, one of our mutual friends ran a sort-of "brothel" in Phnom Penh. So, presumably, my client thought he could ask me certain intimate questions including the procurement of underage girls, not realizing 1) I was former law enforcement, and more importantly 2) how immoral it was.
I can't gauge some whoremonger's IQ or mental capacity.
p.s. I have always enjoyed your posts on Khmer440. Take care, brother!
I only talked about you, so please don't lend me attitudes I did not display.Cadillac Jack wrote:Joon wrote:Sounds to me that Walker Texas Ranger here wanted a cookie or be called in on the case...LTO wrote:Perhaps I am being dense here but I still don't quite get the complaint about APLE. They answered the phone, the spoke English and they took all your info, yes? But you didn't like their attitude? Or something more?
Trying to understand in part because I had a problem reporting something similar to an NGO here a few years back, but they couldn't be bothered to even take the info. Whereas it sounds like APLE did do all of the relevant things for you. What more exactly were you expecting of them?
I guess the APLE people didn't sound excited enough to him.
Have you been raped as a 12-year old girl?
You have a big-mouth, madam. And you definitely have no respect for rape victims.
Sounds to me like it's you who is feeling slighted and it's incomprehensible why you're getting so wound up.
Try reporting what you know to the Children Protection Unit facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/cpucambodia/
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thanks,but u do realize by saying this ur going against the tideCadillac Jack wrote:Hello Phuket,Phuket2006 wrote:unfortunately there is no crime UNTIL its a crime in Cambodia
TO bad he is not American as he could be arrested just for traveling to Cambodia to do what u say he is going to do.
ON the other side,I am with Gav,why would you even be associated with this and why would he ask u for photos? Just cause u live in Cambodia and he knew ur wfe ?? is this all to the story
....I came across a "friend of a friend of a friend of a friend of a friend" type of scenario .... He specifically asked me for photos of any potential vics not knowing....He only knew my wife and didn't know....
Perfectly valid points.
However, one of our mutual friends ran a sort-of "brothel" in Phnom Penh. So, presumably, my client thought he could ask me certain intimate questions including the procurement of underage girls, not realizing 1) I was former law enforcement, and more importantly 2) how immoral it was.
I can't gauge some whoremonger's IQ or mental capacity.
p.s. I have always enjoyed your posts on Khmer440. Take care, brother!
"We are turning into a nation of whimpering slaves to Fear—fear of war, fear of poverty, fear of random terrorism, or suddenly getting locked up in a military detention camp on vague charges of being a Terrorist sympathizer." HST
Especially when by his own admission he would probably turn a blind eye and let a Russian-French old creepy geezer rape a 16 or 17-year old on his holiday.LTO wrote:How do you know he is not an informant testing whether you would do such a thing?Cadillac Jack wrote:Hi Gavin,gavinmac wrote:How does a Russian-French guy find you and ask for your help in sending photos of a 12 year old for him to rape? I've been visiting Cambodia off and on for some 13 years, and that's never happened to me.
He's literally a "friend of a friend of a friend of a friend" etc etc etc etc etc
He only knows that two of my friends own girlie/hostess bars which is why he asked me the question. Otherwise, of course, most creepy guys would have just done their creepy stuffy on their own time and never bothered me with it.
Assuming the story is true, it sounds a bit like that to me too. Like he was expecting them to keep him informed or tell him their plans or, as you say, get as excited as he was, which as an ex-copper he should know that is not the way it works.Joon wrote:Sounds to me that Walker Texas Ranger here wanted a cookie or be called in on the case...LTO wrote:Perhaps I am being dense here but I still don't quite get the complaint about APLE. They answered the phone, the spoke English and they took all your info, yes? But you didn't like their attitude? Or something more?
Trying to understand in part because I had a problem reporting something similar to an NGO here a few years back, but they couldn't be bothered to even take the info. Whereas it sounds like APLE did do all of the relevant things for you. What more exactly were you expecting of them?
I guess the APLE people didn't sound excited enough to him.
And his reluctance to give a straight and clear answer is rather suspicious. Not very Texas either.
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How is he your client?'Cadillac Jack wrote: However, one of our mutual friends ran a sort-of "brothel" in Phnom Penh. So, presumably, my client thought he could ask me certain intimate questions including the procurement of underage girls, not realizing 1) I was former law enforcement, and more importantly 2) how immoral it was.
Also, if you have multiple mutual friends, including a brothel owner, then I would suggest that he is a but more than a "friend of a friend of a friend of a friend."
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Hi LTO,LTO wrote:How do you know he is not an informant testing whether you would do such a thing?Cadillac Jack wrote:Hi Gavin,gavinmac wrote:How does a Russian-French guy find you and ask for your help in sending photos of a 12 year old for him to rape? I've been visiting Cambodia off and on for some 13 years, and that's never happened to me.
He's literally a "friend of a friend of a friend of a friend" etc etc etc etc etc
He only knows that two of my friends own girlie/hostess bars which is why he asked me the question. Otherwise, of course, most creepy guys would have just done their creepy stuffy on their own time and never bothered me with it.
Assuming the story is true, it sounds a bit like that to me too. Like he was expecting them to keep him informed or tell him their plans or, as you say, get as excited as he was, which as an ex-copper he should know that is not the way it works.Joon wrote:Sounds to me that Walker Texas Ranger here wanted a cookie or be called in on the case...LTO wrote:Perhaps I am being dense here but I still don't quite get the complaint about APLE. They answered the phone, the spoke English and they took all your info, yes? But you didn't like their attitude? Or something more?
Trying to understand in part because I had a problem reporting something similar to an NGO here a few years back, but they couldn't be bothered to even take the info. Whereas it sounds like APLE did do all of the relevant things for you. What more exactly were you expecting of them?
I guess the APLE people didn't sound excited enough to him.
And his reluctance to give a straight and clear answer is rather suspicious. Not very Texas either.
Actually, no. It's a crime in many countries. Flying internationally to procure underage girls is a crime in many countries.
And, yes, he wasn't a "stranger" but a client of ours. There is no point explaining what business my wife and I had but he was a client of ours for many years.
The point is, at this point, if he has any sense he is reading this thread and deleting all the emails etc etc. The point is, APLE, which I thought was an honorable NGO, and all the NGOs that actually cared about child exploitation have left a very sour taste in my mouth.
I handed a child predator to them on a silver platter and they botched it on day one.
As a cop, you dream of cases that easy. Cases NEVER come that easy! No one just hands you the smoking gun on a silver platter in the real word. And APLE pissed it away without a care in the world.
I just hope none of you donate even one penny to those fools.
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