Myanmar named as Tefler paradise
Myanmar named as Tefler paradise
So says this report from Coconut, which ranked the best ten places for Tefler s to work around the world.
No mention of Cambodia.
https://coconuts.co/yangon/news/myanmar ... h-english/
No mention of Cambodia.
https://coconuts.co/yangon/news/myanmar ... h-english/
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scobienz wrote:So says this report from Coconut, which ranked the best ten places for Tefler s to work around the world.
No mention of Cambodia.
https://coconuts.co/yangon/news/myanmar ... h-english/
ahh more fake news
"We are turning into a nation of whimpering slaves to Fear—fear of war, fear of poverty, fear of random terrorism, or suddenly getting locked up in a military detention camp on vague charges of being a Terrorist sympathizer." HST
the Philippines is odd. i didn't think there were too many teflers there. one good thing in Burma's favor - it was English and not French. although, iv'e never tested the theory.
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Well, as someone who teaches in Myanmar, and who has been teaching there since 2012, I have to agree with Coconuts.
Maybe you recall about 6 months ago I was in PP looking for a teaching job. Scant few offers, best salary was $1,000. I went back to teach in Myanmar and now get paid $3,000 per month. That is with no overtime or weekend work. (I could earn the same in China).
There are pros and cons to teaching in Myanmar. I have to say that from experience, the most successful teachers are those who are older male and have lived in Asia for years - they seem more able to handle the basic lifestyle and 'problems' - the younger teachers often don't last 1 year.
Maybe you recall about 6 months ago I was in PP looking for a teaching job. Scant few offers, best salary was $1,000. I went back to teach in Myanmar and now get paid $3,000 per month. That is with no overtime or weekend work. (I could earn the same in China).
There are pros and cons to teaching in Myanmar. I have to say that from experience, the most successful teachers are those who are older male and have lived in Asia for years - they seem more able to handle the basic lifestyle and 'problems' - the younger teachers often don't last 1 year.
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simon are u teaching English as a second language or teaching in a real school as a real teacher??
"We are turning into a nation of whimpering slaves to Fear—fear of war, fear of poverty, fear of random terrorism, or suddenly getting locked up in a military detention camp on vague charges of being a Terrorist sympathizer." HST
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Phuket2006, do you not accept that it is possible to teach English as a Second Language in a 'real' school as a 'real' teacher? Your reluctance to accept such teachers as 'real' indicates that you do not realise there are Cambridge IGCSE examinations in ESOL as well as FLE (First Language English). Many International Schools cater for both, with the same English teacher handling both sets of students until the final decision as to which students take which discipline is made a few weeks before the final entry date.
Just for the record, I taught Cambridge ESOL(a different one again - one which you might not deem to be 'real') in Myanmar from 1997 - 1999. Life was quite tough in Mandalay then as the SLORC (State Law & Order Restoration Council) suddenly morphed into the SPDC (similar meaning) and had a habit of tracking foreigners closely. Some students even disappeared from classes. I loved the country, though, apart from the headaches with the Tatmadaw. There were only three native speakers teaching in Mandalay in those days. The dosh was good, but it was really hard work, with large classes (but very dedicated students).
I always thought that I would go back one day, but only when Daw ASSK gained power. Events regarding the Rohingya have put me off, though.
Just for the record, I taught Cambridge ESOL(a different one again - one which you might not deem to be 'real') in Myanmar from 1997 - 1999. Life was quite tough in Mandalay then as the SLORC (State Law & Order Restoration Council) suddenly morphed into the SPDC (similar meaning) and had a habit of tracking foreigners closely. Some students even disappeared from classes. I loved the country, though, apart from the headaches with the Tatmadaw. There were only three native speakers teaching in Mandalay in those days. The dosh was good, but it was really hard work, with large classes (but very dedicated students).
I always thought that I would go back one day, but only when Daw ASSK gained power. Events regarding the Rohingya have put me off, though.
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i know there are real teachers teaching English, BUT the OP talks about teaching English (as a TEFLER) outside of a full school that offers more than just English classes.
In the past 2 years (just back from last trip 2 weeks ago) i have traveled all over Myanmar and i love the place as well, but would not choose to live there. Quite different from my first visit in 1988
In the past 2 years (just back from last trip 2 weeks ago) i have traveled all over Myanmar and i love the place as well, but would not choose to live there. Quite different from my first visit in 1988
"We are turning into a nation of whimpering slaves to Fear—fear of war, fear of poverty, fear of random terrorism, or suddenly getting locked up in a military detention camp on vague charges of being a Terrorist sympathizer." HST
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Interesting reply. Yes, it was described as a 'Tefler' paradise.
Could you share with us what it was like in 1988? In my time there, I always felt uneasy, yet marvelled at the splendours of Mingun, U Bein Bridge, Pyin Oo Lwin (Maytown) and so on.
Could you share with us what it was like in 1988? In my time there, I always felt uneasy, yet marvelled at the splendours of Mingun, U Bein Bridge, Pyin Oo Lwin (Maytown) and so on.
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how long does it take on average to get a job that pays upwards of 1500 p m?simon44 wrote:Well, as someone who teaches in Myanmar, and who has been teaching there since 2012, I have to agree with Coconuts.
Maybe you recall about 6 months ago I was in PP looking for a teaching job. Scant few offers, best salary was $1,000. I went back to teach in Myanmar and now get paid $3,000 per month. That is with no overtime or weekend work. (I could earn the same in China).
There are pros and cons to teaching in Myanmar. I have to say that from experience, the most successful teachers are those who are older male and have lived in Asia for years - they seem more able to handle the basic lifestyle and 'problems' - the younger teachers often don't last 1 year.
how much would one be able to save p m on those wages?
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I doubt anyone in Myanmar studies ESL.Phuket2006 wrote:simon are u teaching English as a second language or teaching in a real school as a real teacher??
Most of Asia would be studying English in an EFL programme. No offence Phuket, but the 'real teacher' slur may pack more weight if you were informed.
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vladimir wrote:I doubt anyone in Myanmar studies ESL.Phuket2006 wrote:simon are u teaching English as a second language or teaching in a real school as a real teacher??
Most of Asia would be studying English in an EFL programme. No offence Phuket, but the 'real teacher' slur may pack more weight if you were informed.
You mean Mr. Expert 'Been There, Done That' star photographer, who has images all from over Cambodia (and everywhere else in SEA)?
'Got any pictures of Kirirom mate, I need some for this project?'
'Kiri-where? I don't know what that is, never heard of it'.
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simon are u teaching English as a second language or teaching in a real school as a real teacher??
Hmm, are there 'real' schools in Myanmar? (I could pose the same question about Cambodia).
I work for ILBC School, which is about as real as you can get in Myanmar (I think they were first established in the late 90's and have about 20 branches in various cities and towns throughout Myanmar).
I am a Phonics specialist - I teach English to the youngest students (pre-school, KG and primary 1). I also provide English language lessons to trainee local teachers at the school and run pedagogical and phonics workshops for the local teachers.
So I guess that I'm a 'real' teacher
My salary includes the full payment for my hotel and breakfast (about $550/month). So my take-home salary is about $2,450 (I just had a pay-rise!).
How much can one save in Myanmar? Since the school normally covers accommodation costs, the amount that you can save really depends on how much you spend on your social life.
When I worked in Yangon in 2012/2013 and then in Mandalay in 2016, there were lots of other expat teachers. That meant that I ended up eating out in restaurants every night, drinking beer, eating pizza etc etc.
So I relocated to Naypyidaw, where the nightlife is virtually non-existent and the number of foreign teachers can be counted on one hand I started on a good diet and fitness routine, working out in a hotel gym and using their beautiful swimming pool (most hotels in Naypyidaw are virtually deserted...).
I'm saving about $2,000 USD every month, (In fact, I'm in Bangkok right now to deposit my cash into my Thai bank account).
My employer seems very happy with my work and I am also very happy with my responsibilities. I hope to stay in Myanmar for quite a few years and put some cash in the bank.
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