Problems ministry, legalisation documents ( apostillestamp)
Problems ministry, legalisation documents ( apostillestamp)
Today we visited the ministry of foreign affairs, we need to get the apostille stamp on the birthcertificate and unmarried certificate. We need this stamp otherwise its impossible to go live in another country. The guy on the ministry said, that they dont give the apostille stamp on the unmarried certificate, but only at a weddingcertificate. So that means, cambodia force the people to get a married certificate, if they wanna live in another country. I onow the terms are strict to get a legal wedding. But he never spoke of terms, he gave us all the papers, questionlist etc etc etc. He even gaves 3 telephone numbers. So i did some research, and it seems a common problem, cambodia not give that stamp on a unmarried certificate, and the marriedcertificate cost 2000$$$$. thats why he gaves his numbers offcourse.
But i not go marrie if we are force togo wedding, and imnot gonna pay these fuckers 2000$. i allready contact the embassy, but wondering if people had the same experience, and more important, the solution!!
But i not go marrie if we are force togo wedding, and imnot gonna pay these fuckers 2000$. i allready contact the embassy, but wondering if people had the same experience, and more important, the solution!!
You can go around that by using a certificate of residence where her marital status ("single") will normally be mentioned, so it doubles up as certificate of celibacy. I don't remember exactly but I think that's what we did.
That sounds like a plausible solution, both the Carnet de Residence and Family Books state each persons marital status, get a certified copy of either of those from the MoFAIC.logos wrote:You can go around that by using a certificate of residence where her marital status ("single") will normally be mentioned, so it doubles up as certificate of celibacy. I don't remember exactly but I think that's what we did.
I'm not a negative person, I encourage people all the time...it's usually to f**k off! But, whatever.
Bart, contact the authorities in the land you want live, and explain the problem to them. I had the same problem 5 years ago although it was to provide my daughter with my nationality. After I explained the problem to them and provided them with legalized family book of th mother of our daughter and her certificate of celibacy provided by the village chief and translated by Pyramid they budged. There's no way the MOF is going to sign of the unmarried certificate, also not for 2000 USD. I tried... This is one of the few laws actually enforced.bartderks wrote:Today we visited the ministry of foreign affairs, we need to get the apostille stamp on the birthcertificate and unmarried certificate. We need this stamp otherwise its impossible to go live in another country. The guy on the ministry said, that they dont give the apostille stamp on the unmarried certificate, but only at a weddingcertificate. So that means, cambodia force the people to get a married certificate, if they wanna live in another country. I onow the terms are strict to get a legal wedding. But he never spoke of terms, he gave us all the papers, questionlist etc etc etc. He even gaves 3 telephone numbers. So i did some research, and it seems a common problem, cambodia not give that stamp on a unmarried certificate, and the marriedcertificate cost 2000$$$$. thats why he gaves his numbers offcourse.
But i not go marrie if we are force togo wedding, and imnot gonna pay these fuckers 2000$. i allready contact the embassy, but wondering if people had the same experience, and more important, the solution!!
I contacted the authorities in the netherlands, so i wait on their answer, but the residential certificate and family book are maybe a good option, if they accept that in the netherlands.
The other option will be when you come to Kuala Lumpur take the document to the Cambodian Embassy and ask them to certify the document then take it to the Malaysian Ministry of Foreign Affairs in Putrajaya to legalize the document . After that then the Netherlands Embassy in Kuala Lumpur can legalize this document. No promises but I do know some have been able to get it done this way
Thats the answer of the dutch embassy in kualavlumpur.
The other option will be when you come to Kuala Lumpur take the document to the Cambodian Embassy and ask them to certify the document then take it to the Malaysian Ministry of Foreign Affairs in Putrajaya to legalize the document . After that then the Netherlands Embassy in Kuala Lumpur can legalize this document. No promises but I do know some have been able to get it done this way
Thats the answer of the dutch embassy in kualavlumpur.
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This is same i try to tell couple days ago in other topic. They put "law" somewhere about 6yrs ago that Cambodians can't go married outside Kingdom. That's why you didn't get legalization for unmarried certificate.bartderks wrote:The guy on the ministry said, that they dont give the apostille stamp on the unmarried certificate, but only at a weddingcertificate.
cambodia not give that stamp on a unmarried certificate
You can still try to go married with that paper in your country, just get it translated somewhere.
Pardon my engrish, thanks you.
No, for some countries (including bartderks') a translation is not enough, in his case it has to be translated and then signed of by MOF.raendi wrote:This is same i try to tell couple days ago in other topic. They put "law" somewhere about 6yrs ago that Cambodians can't go married outside Kingdom. That's why you didn't get legalization for unmarried certificate.bartderks wrote:The guy on the ministry said, that they dont give the apostille stamp on the unmarried certificate, but only at a weddingcertificate.
cambodia not give that stamp on a unmarried certificate
You can still try to go married with that paper in your country, just get it translated somewhere.
I once had the birth certificate of my daughter translated and signed by MOF and had to offer it to the embassy in Bangkok for another legalization, but did not plan to go to Bangkok until 3,5 months after that. The embassy denied to legalize the document because it was more than 90 days old.... Had to go back to MOF and have them make a new one. I think they're still laughing there..... Luckily... since 2016 documents from Cambodia's MOF do not need a legalization by the embassy anymore in my country.
Be careful with generalizations and always check the (current) national laws (in detail) that apply in your country, and don't trust generic info on this forum too much.
Thanks for the answers, I got some emails back of the embassy in Bangkok and Thailand, but not really usefull information. I still waiting on a anwser of the mof of the Netherlands, probarly they give the answers. We just came back of the village chief, it's impossible to get a residential certificate of 1 person( as parents still live), and the residential book of the family is dated 1999, and they wrote my girlfriend name wrong, so that's also useless. Village said that's now impossible to renew the book, and he send us to takeo office. But probarly also there they can't renew the book. Strange, but we will see. I hope to get some answers of the mof tiday, so I know for sure what I must do, and what they accept.
But infact the familybook gives the same info as the residential book of the family. Behind my gf name they write STUDENT, and that mean she Is single, according the info what I hear.
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And then after MOF embassy also.Kachang wrote:No, for some countries (including bartderks') a translation is not enough, in his case it has to be translated and then signed of by MOF.raendi wrote:You can still try to go married with that paper in your country, just get it translated somewhere.
Yes, my country is same like that. Still i know people who have manage to get married only with translated document: they go to small town ministry, where clerks aren't not so aware of official instructions
Pardon my engrish, thanks you.
Btw, first get the apostillestamp ( legalisation) and after that the documents must be translated!! They must also translate the stamp,
Are you sure? If I remember well the stamp doesn't contain any (major) text. MOF translated (they just use a standard Word file and change names & dates, but hey), printed and signed and stamped the translation and provided me with three prints. At least that's what happened in my case several times with both family book and birth certificate. Translation at MOF was cheaper than Pyramid as well, strangely....bartderks wrote:Btw, first get the apostillestamp ( legalisation) and after that the documents must be translated!! They must also translate the stamp,
Stamp must become at the original paper, after that the document must be translated by a recognized translation Service.
I'm sure about this, because the immigration service in the Netherlands told me this.
Probarly pyramid is the only one that's alowed to this.
I'm sure about this, because the immigration service in the Netherlands told me this.
Probarly pyramid is the only one that's alowed to this.
Probarly the info what they gave me is incomplete, because I read on a website that the mof also must give the stamp on the translation. Only when I let translate the document in the Netherlands ( sworn translater) is 1 stamp on the original document enough!!
So probarly you are right kachang, first translation than to the mof. it also make sense, because the Netherlands don't know all sworn translationservices in the world
So probarly you are right kachang, first translation than to the mof. it also make sense, because the Netherlands don't know all sworn translationservices in the world
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