Cost for construction
Cost for construction
I have a piece of land near Kampong Cham and would like to build a western style
House around 100 sum, one floor, two bedroom, living room, kitchen, bathroom
Could anybody tell me roughly something about the cost per sqm. Quality should be
be good.
Does anybody know a builder in the Kampong Chang Area who is reliable and experienced
Thank you.
House around 100 sum, one floor, two bedroom, living room, kitchen, bathroom
Could anybody tell me roughly something about the cost per sqm. Quality should be
be good.
Does anybody know a builder in the Kampong Chang Area who is reliable and experienced
Thank you.
300 psm minimum. How much higher depends on your spess. Easy to find builders with the skills to build a basic house. Trusting them is another matter.
Off topic - if the land is not in your name I would keep the spend as low as possible.
Off topic - if the land is not in your name I would keep the spend as low as possible.
I just built a very nice, single storey 3 bed, 2 bath, kitchen and living room house for around $18k, the wall to keep the family out cost 1/3rd more.
Pm for more info?....
Pm for more info?....
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I think he's looking for a more western fitout (unless the rooms are tiny). I'd say $250/sqm+ is a good rule for thumb for a western type place. You can get away with a bit less (or a lot less) depending on the style and fixtures (bathroom/kitchen/lights etc), but it's a good starting baseline. If you make the place specific dimensions you can save on materials. As with anything, the sky is the limit, so it really depends on you...
LexusSchmexus wrote:I think he's looking for a more western fitout (unless the rooms are tiny). I'd say $250/sqm+ is a good rule for thumb for a western type place. You can get away with a bit less (or a lot less) depending on the style and fixtures (bathroom/kitchen/lights etc), but it's a good starting baseline. If you make the place specific dimensions you can save on materials. As with anything, the sky is the limit, so it really depends on you...
Fuck you. My house is well western, just under 100m2. In no way a Khmer hovel, although lacking in a/c. Did skimp on a metal rather than tiled roof though....
But 3 bedrooms, 2 toilets, kitchen, living room space and nice finishing and concrete patio. The gate and wall seem more of a rip off....
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Calm down, I wasn’t trying to be a dick or implying you were living in a dump. REading myself again, I did word it pretty poorly with "tiny" and "western", my apologies. Anyways, yours works out to 200/sqm, which is in line with what I was saying. Saying you have three bedrooms can mean it’s anywhere between 60sqm to 250sqm, that’s why I assumed it was more of a K-style place (nothing wrong with that if it meets basic requirements).
Also, it’s hard to gauge what the OP wants… I’ve heard tons of people say western style, while definitions of that will vary tremendously. What type of kitchen cabinets do you want? In my experience, the cabinets (and matching western furniture) are one of the biggest costs. For real estate agents, anything without a squat toilet is called western, but I’ve even heard many foreigners say their apartment is western style when there’s a badly designed kitchen (or more). I've seen places described as western with tiny counters made from brick and mortar with wooden doors (or no doors) and tiles on top, or insufficient counter space/badly designed (doesn’t optimize workflow by having the prep counter on the wrong side of the refrigerator door, or prep station far from the fridge etc). Definitions vary widely, that’s why it’s difficult to answer these types of questions.
Klaus: many things need to be taken into context. If it’s a shophouse it’ll be cheaper, as it’s dimensions they’re used to building. Then there’s materials/style. You could build a 80sqm place for well under ten grand using single brick walls and cheap materials, or it could cost you 40k if you go nuts… It really depends on the design and intention of the owner. Many things will affect pricing such as local labour costs and add-ons which might be essential to some, and useless to others. Do you want a wall? As Pedro mentioned, walls always cost a premium vs walls on the building. Just the way things are. Do you want a fence? A backyard/courtyard? Do you need to truck in dirt to make the ground higher before building? Do you want an island in your kitchen? Is 3m of counterspace enough for you, or do you need a lot more with fully equipped kitchen including oven and all that? Do you want a shed to store your tools and bikes? A wooden deck? What type of tiles do you like for the bathroom? What type of doors do you want? All these things obviously cost $$$$, that’s why it’s always difficult to answer a question like the OP’s. One person said 300sqm minimum, Pedro says 200, I split the difference and say 250. It gives you a decent range to start with, which you can tailor to your needs.
A few questions: is it for you to live in? Your in-laws? Are you a simple person, or do you want a pool…? I personally always factor in the price of furniture and appliances with the house, and those can be quite pricey depending on what you want. Worth thinking about when you budget for the place.
Also, it’s hard to gauge what the OP wants… I’ve heard tons of people say western style, while definitions of that will vary tremendously. What type of kitchen cabinets do you want? In my experience, the cabinets (and matching western furniture) are one of the biggest costs. For real estate agents, anything without a squat toilet is called western, but I’ve even heard many foreigners say their apartment is western style when there’s a badly designed kitchen (or more). I've seen places described as western with tiny counters made from brick and mortar with wooden doors (or no doors) and tiles on top, or insufficient counter space/badly designed (doesn’t optimize workflow by having the prep counter on the wrong side of the refrigerator door, or prep station far from the fridge etc). Definitions vary widely, that’s why it’s difficult to answer these types of questions.
Klaus: many things need to be taken into context. If it’s a shophouse it’ll be cheaper, as it’s dimensions they’re used to building. Then there’s materials/style. You could build a 80sqm place for well under ten grand using single brick walls and cheap materials, or it could cost you 40k if you go nuts… It really depends on the design and intention of the owner. Many things will affect pricing such as local labour costs and add-ons which might be essential to some, and useless to others. Do you want a wall? As Pedro mentioned, walls always cost a premium vs walls on the building. Just the way things are. Do you want a fence? A backyard/courtyard? Do you need to truck in dirt to make the ground higher before building? Do you want an island in your kitchen? Is 3m of counterspace enough for you, or do you need a lot more with fully equipped kitchen including oven and all that? Do you want a shed to store your tools and bikes? A wooden deck? What type of tiles do you like for the bathroom? What type of doors do you want? All these things obviously cost $$$$, that’s why it’s always difficult to answer a question like the OP’s. One person said 300sqm minimum, Pedro says 200, I split the difference and say 250. It gives you a decent range to start with, which you can tailor to your needs.
A few questions: is it for you to live in? Your in-laws? Are you a simple person, or do you want a pool…? I personally always factor in the price of furniture and appliances with the house, and those can be quite pricey depending on what you want. Worth thinking about when you budget for the place.
@pedros that's a good price for western standard do you have a couple of photos?
Anyway
200$\m2 for basic quality 300$\m2 for good quality.
Ground floor only can be cheaper if you cut some corners.
If you buy all materials yourself from the right suppliers (I recommend Chinese owned depots as they have clear price lists) and you get your workers from a person specialized in finding staff from the countryside you can save considerable amounts of money.
Bricks and concrete are generally cheap and steel is also quite low at the moment. 300$\m2 for ground floor is only fair if you want good quality and are too lazy to follow up yourself. Anything lower than 125$\m2 won't qualify for a decent living standard. For ground floor only you can get precast lightweight concrete walls which are very affordable and for 100m2 you can install all perimeter walls in a day. They come in 0.5~ m X 2.8m about 16cm thick.
Also you can buy already made footings with columns, again only suitable for ground floor and for stable soil which can save you considerable time and costs.
You can use traditional tiles, often made in a brick factory which are extremely cheap, the steel for the roof is also not very pricey if you buy directly from the various Viet importers.
Finishing touches and style can break the bank easily if you go for hard to find materials and high grade elements, for example a standard size window can cost you from 50$ up to 1000$ depending on the quality and supplier.
Anyway
200$\m2 for basic quality 300$\m2 for good quality.
Ground floor only can be cheaper if you cut some corners.
If you buy all materials yourself from the right suppliers (I recommend Chinese owned depots as they have clear price lists) and you get your workers from a person specialized in finding staff from the countryside you can save considerable amounts of money.
Bricks and concrete are generally cheap and steel is also quite low at the moment. 300$\m2 for ground floor is only fair if you want good quality and are too lazy to follow up yourself. Anything lower than 125$\m2 won't qualify for a decent living standard. For ground floor only you can get precast lightweight concrete walls which are very affordable and for 100m2 you can install all perimeter walls in a day. They come in 0.5~ m X 2.8m about 16cm thick.
Also you can buy already made footings with columns, again only suitable for ground floor and for stable soil which can save you considerable time and costs.
You can use traditional tiles, often made in a brick factory which are extremely cheap, the steel for the roof is also not very pricey if you buy directly from the various Viet importers.
Finishing touches and style can break the bank easily if you go for hard to find materials and high grade elements, for example a standard size window can cost you from 50$ up to 1000$ depending on the quality and supplier.
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Ah yes, how could I forget windows! In two places I used aluminum windows which were nicer than the cheapo aluminum stuff, but nothing amazing. A good middle-ground I'd say. Not terribly expensive, but better than the super cheap stuff. I also used nice PVC windows for a patio door at my place in the city, as well as for all windows/patio door in my countryside retreat. That's $$$$. Imo it might not have been worth it. Prices have come down a bit on those are there are now tons of suppliers, but it's still expensive in terms of percentage of the overall costs. Looks great though and good hardware.
Jack: what would be the advantage of those prefab concrete walls? Where can they be bought from? Unless they're a lot cheaper (reduced labour?) than brick and mortar, I have trouble seeing the advantages. How are they assembled, just cement the joints then plaster over them? What about running wires? How do you "lock" them in? Give us a link if you have one, sounds interesting.
Jack: what would be the advantage of those prefab concrete walls? Where can they be bought from? Unless they're a lot cheaper (reduced labour?) than brick and mortar, I have trouble seeing the advantages. How are they assembled, just cement the joints then plaster over them? What about running wires? How do you "lock" them in? Give us a link if you have one, sounds interesting.
How much for the fence/gate/wall?
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That was pretty expensive, about $3.5k for 2 metres high all around the land with deep foundations, can build off it, should I choose to extend at a later date..Londo wrote:How much for the fence/gate/wall?
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YaTingPom wrote:I hate single brick and metal roofs. HOT, HOT, DAMP!
Surprisingly cool,obviously tiles would be better, but... budgeting. It's reflective metal, so blinds you to look at in the day time and reduces the heat, loft insulation in the ceiling too. So far, no problems with any damp.
At the end of the day I (well, you know who really) own a house and land, so have no rent/landlord shit to deal with and is a possible income generator through renting in the future, if something happens to me.
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