^ Thispedros wrote: At the end of the day I (well, you know who really) own a house and land, so have no rent/landlord shit to deal with and is a possible income generator through renting in the future, if something happens to me.
Cost for construction
I'm not a negative person, I encourage people all the time...it's usually to f**k off! But, whatever.
The pre fab concrete panels have caught my attention.
Can you direct me to where you purchased them from and the price you paid.
I'm interested in both wall and floor prefab panels,
Can you direct me to where you purchased them from and the price you paid.
I'm interested in both wall and floor prefab panels,
I refuse to go out with nothing more than a whimper followed by a small farting sound and a shit stain on my bed sheets..
Just thought I'd share that with you.
Just thought I'd share that with you.
800 riel a piece, with a bit of shopping around and bulk order. I believe they can be 1000-1500 each when buying small amounts.
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I'm all for that bro!pedros wrote:YaTingPom wrote:I hate single brick and metal roofs. HOT, HOT, DAMP!
Surprisingly cool,obviously tiles would be better, but... budgeting. It's reflective metal, so blinds you to look at in the day time and reduces the heat, loft insulation in the ceiling too. So far, no problems with any damp.
At the end of the day I (well, you know who really) own a house and land, so have no rent/landlord shit to deal with and is a possible income generator through renting in the future, if something happens to me.
I've seen reasonably priced insulated metal roofs and they are cool. Literally.
I've to build six houses on 5 X 20 land so am interested in this thread and take notes (in crayon).
Just need the cash.
pew, pew, pew, pew!
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My advice to op would be:
Get a good foreman/site manager and agree a price (builders being the same world over add 10-20% on top), he'll then pay his lackeys day rate, so will push them harder to finish the job. I went through 3 different crews with same boss, every time they complained, or did a shit job, he'd bring in another, harsh but fair.
Do as much donkey work buying the materials as possible, it saves money and stops sending a lackey out on a one hour mission that takes him all day.
Have the Mrs on site all day to make noise.
Give the boys a chicken or 2 and a box of klang every Saturday afternoon and always provide water and ice + the odd pot of bor bor.
Be polite, firm, but never weak/angry.... Something easier said than done at times. Builders follow the same book of ethics all over the world.....
Get a good foreman/site manager and agree a price (builders being the same world over add 10-20% on top), he'll then pay his lackeys day rate, so will push them harder to finish the job. I went through 3 different crews with same boss, every time they complained, or did a shit job, he'd bring in another, harsh but fair.
Do as much donkey work buying the materials as possible, it saves money and stops sending a lackey out on a one hour mission that takes him all day.
Have the Mrs on site all day to make noise.
Give the boys a chicken or 2 and a box of klang every Saturday afternoon and always provide water and ice + the odd pot of bor bor.
Be polite, firm, but never weak/angry.... Something easier said than done at times. Builders follow the same book of ethics all over the world.....
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@lexus
Those panels are to be installed vertically.
They have a male and female side so they connect a bit like Legos. Of course you need to add concrete to connect them properly. The bottom is usually connected to the slab/line footings with rebar hooks that pop into some of the holes and than the hole is partially filled with a about 30cm of concrete at the bottom (which interlocks them with the base again very much like Legos). They're very quick to install, cheap if you buy enough or buy the machine which literally just gets fed concrete and poops the walls like turds. The price by m2 is not so different from good brick work materials but installation is cheaper and these walls don't crack. They are common in shopping malls and condos as well as soil retaining walls when using a specially designed footing.
@ Pedro's
Don't take it the wrong way but allow me to be a cunt on a couple of things, just because "western standards".
The facade is done quite well, i particularly like the horizontal striping which gives an effect reminiscent of wood siding . just the capital of a column should be in contact with the architrave/element which it supports/appears to support. It's a very common mistake done by Cambodian construction crews.
Please have the guy who planned your electrical system whipped, why so many cables are running outside the walls? The cost of having them run inside the walls during construction is very low and can be done on a single brick wall with no issues unless you went for cheaper aluminium cables instead of copper.
The gate positioning is a bit off, you should have had another, maybe smaller, entryway directly in front of the door for esthetic balance. Or just made the 2 house columns being further out so to be part of the fence with an entryway under the arch.
if you had to go for steel roof you could have picked the style which looks like roof tiles, the price is similar and unless you are on it it looks just like a normal tiled roof.
If you add a few cm of wood skirting on the room bottom edges it will hide overly large grouting lines and make the room more classy as you already went for wood doors. Also it keeps those grouts from becoming dirty and almost impossible to clean.
I very much like the design elements over the windows and seems like the paint job was done quite well all around the building which is rare here.
Please tell me that that electrical outlet/switch next to the sink is grounded and that it is not the main kitchen area or you lose any claims to western standards on that alone.
Those floor tiles in the bathroom don't fit with the rest of the design choices. They are very late 80s.
The gap under the door is too wide, unless you make it narrower you will get roaches at night attracted by any food debris in the kitchen.
That said I still think that for what you paid ( sub 200$\m2) the result is fine, especially the facade gives a good first impression.
Those panels are to be installed vertically.
They have a male and female side so they connect a bit like Legos. Of course you need to add concrete to connect them properly. The bottom is usually connected to the slab/line footings with rebar hooks that pop into some of the holes and than the hole is partially filled with a about 30cm of concrete at the bottom (which interlocks them with the base again very much like Legos). They're very quick to install, cheap if you buy enough or buy the machine which literally just gets fed concrete and poops the walls like turds. The price by m2 is not so different from good brick work materials but installation is cheaper and these walls don't crack. They are common in shopping malls and condos as well as soil retaining walls when using a specially designed footing.
@ Pedro's
Don't take it the wrong way but allow me to be a cunt on a couple of things, just because "western standards".
The facade is done quite well, i particularly like the horizontal striping which gives an effect reminiscent of wood siding . just the capital of a column should be in contact with the architrave/element which it supports/appears to support. It's a very common mistake done by Cambodian construction crews.
Please have the guy who planned your electrical system whipped, why so many cables are running outside the walls? The cost of having them run inside the walls during construction is very low and can be done on a single brick wall with no issues unless you went for cheaper aluminium cables instead of copper.
The gate positioning is a bit off, you should have had another, maybe smaller, entryway directly in front of the door for esthetic balance. Or just made the 2 house columns being further out so to be part of the fence with an entryway under the arch.
if you had to go for steel roof you could have picked the style which looks like roof tiles, the price is similar and unless you are on it it looks just like a normal tiled roof.
If you add a few cm of wood skirting on the room bottom edges it will hide overly large grouting lines and make the room more classy as you already went for wood doors. Also it keeps those grouts from becoming dirty and almost impossible to clean.
I very much like the design elements over the windows and seems like the paint job was done quite well all around the building which is rare here.
Please tell me that that electrical outlet/switch next to the sink is grounded and that it is not the main kitchen area or you lose any claims to western standards on that alone.
Those floor tiles in the bathroom don't fit with the rest of the design choices. They are very late 80s.
The gap under the door is too wide, unless you make it narrower you will get roaches at night attracted by any food debris in the kitchen.
That said I still think that for what you paid ( sub 200$\m2) the result is fine, especially the facade gives a good first impression.
Well, I'm hardly Norman rockefeller, but it's western enough for me, especially compared with the Victorian era semis from my particular hometown.
If you're every passing down road 4, feel free to pop in and cast a disparaging eye over my folly.
If you're every passing down road 4, feel free to pop in and cast a disparaging eye over my folly.
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The house looks pretty good but tiling up all the walls, why would you? Money spent for nothing. I like the fake weatherboard rendering and insulated steel roofs are much more efficient than tiles and don't leak.
I too hate the single brick and columns everywhere but it is what they do and is cheap. I think there are lightweight concrete blocks available now and that's what they use in Thailand. You just glue them together and out a ring beam around the top.
Those concrete panels look like flooring to me, not for walls. They used them at that disaster in Koh Kong but had no crane to lift them so pushed them up and over. Unfortunately dropping them cracks them and they then have no structural integrity.
Bit like the procession of blokes who worked up there.
I too hate the single brick and columns everywhere but it is what they do and is cheap. I think there are lightweight concrete blocks available now and that's what they use in Thailand. You just glue them together and out a ring beam around the top.
Those concrete panels look like flooring to me, not for walls. They used them at that disaster in Koh Kong but had no crane to lift them so pushed them up and over. Unfortunately dropping them cracks them and they then have no structural integrity.
Bit like the procession of blokes who worked up there.
These are insulated 1400 x 600 x 100 and cost $10.09 each
These fit together like lego bricks then after 6 or so coarses concrete is poured into the wholes to 'lock' them in place 100 x 200 x 50 @ $0.15 each
http://ecobuildcambodia.com/brick.red.jpg
These fit together like lego bricks then after 6 or so coarses concrete is poured into the wholes to 'lock' them in place 100 x 200 x 50 @ $0.15 each
http://ecobuildcambodia.com/brick.red.jpg
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[quote="crazyjohn"]The house looks pretty good but tiling up all the walls, why would you? Money spent for nothing. [ /quote]
I can only assume you don't have children.....
I can only assume you don't have children.....
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pedros wrote:crazyjohn wrote:The house looks pretty good but tiling up all the walls, why would you? Money spent for nothing. [ /quote]
I can only assume you don't have children.....
My thoughts exactly,
It's easier to wipe down a tile than it is to repaint a plaster wall.
I refuse to go out with nothing more than a whimper followed by a small farting sound and a shit stain on my bed sheets..
Just thought I'd share that with you.
Just thought I'd share that with you.
Easier still? Birth control.My thoughts exactly,
It's easier to wipe down a tile than it is to repaint a plaster wall.
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