New UK PM is Boris Johnson
UK farmers now want a 2nd referendum. Most voted to Leave, even the really clever one's who enjoy hunting foxes with dogs and calling it SPORT, and selling 80% of their produce to the nasty EU.
Now somethings happened amongst the haystacks ?.
They've changed their minds en masse.
Imagine all those pro-sovereignty folks voting to leave because they were told there would be no more royal family.
I'm done trying to understand.
Now somethings happened amongst the haystacks ?.
They've changed their minds en masse.
Imagine all those pro-sovereignty folks voting to leave because they were told there would be no more royal family.
I'm done trying to understand.
The farmers round my way, some of which I've known all my life, don't want to remain. In fact they were among the most ardent supporters of Leave. They were down the pub banging on about UKIP before most people had even heard of it.EIKROY wrote: ↑Fri Aug 16, 2019 6:00 pmUK farmers now want a 2nd referendum. Most voted to Leave, even the really clever one's who enjoy hunting foxes with dogs and calling it SPORT, and selling 80% of their produce to the nasty EU.
Now somethings happened amongst the haystacks ?.
They've changed their minds en masse.
Imagine all those pro-sovereignty folks voting to leave because they were told there would be no more royal family.
I'm done trying to understand.
TheGrimReaper wrote: ↑Mon Sep 02, 2019 1:45 pmSlavedog, you do not belong on this forum as you talk too much sense.
Okay, Maybe they need to go to the NUF website www.nfuonline.com
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I caught up with several of my farm based friends whilst back in England this summer. Most were more concerned over plans and preparations for the [then] upcoming Glorious Twelfth than Brexit.
"We, the sons of John Company, have arrived"
Yes quite understandable, 14 Million Common Pheasant bred in captivity this year to facilitate their Sport !!!!. In the interest of conservation of course.
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Today's play:
Stopping no deal
Corbyn-led temporary government
Jeremy Corbyn has offered to lead a temporary government tasked with requesting a delay to Brexit from the EU, before triggering an election.
Likelihood: one in five
Government of national unity
Jo Swinson, the Lib Dem leader, has said Corbyn cannot command enough support to lead a temporary government. She has instead suggested a temporary government of national unity, led by a more neutral figure such as Labour’s Harriet Harman or veteran Tory Ken Clarke.
Likelihood: two in five
New laws blocking no deal
MPs such as Dominic Grieve, Oliver Letwin, Nick Boles and Yvette Cooper have been part of efforts to pass new legislation that orders the prime minister to request a Brexit delay to avoid no deal.
Likelihood: three in five
A Brexit deal is agreed
Some MPs are still holding out hope that Boris Johnson will offer them a vote on a Brexit deal based on the agreement put forward by Theresa May. For it to pass, Labour MPs opposed to a second referendum, such as Lisa Nandy, would have to back it.
Likelihood: two in five
Today's play:
Stopping no deal
Corbyn-led temporary government
Jeremy Corbyn has offered to lead a temporary government tasked with requesting a delay to Brexit from the EU, before triggering an election.
Likelihood: one in five
Government of national unity
Jo Swinson, the Lib Dem leader, has said Corbyn cannot command enough support to lead a temporary government. She has instead suggested a temporary government of national unity, led by a more neutral figure such as Labour’s Harriet Harman or veteran Tory Ken Clarke.
Likelihood: two in five
New laws blocking no deal
MPs such as Dominic Grieve, Oliver Letwin, Nick Boles and Yvette Cooper have been part of efforts to pass new legislation that orders the prime minister to request a Brexit delay to avoid no deal.
Likelihood: three in five
A Brexit deal is agreed
Some MPs are still holding out hope that Boris Johnson will offer them a vote on a Brexit deal based on the agreement put forward by Theresa May. For it to pass, Labour MPs opposed to a second referendum, such as Lisa Nandy, would have to back it.
Likelihood: two in five
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According to leaked government documents on “Operation Yellowhammer”, published by the Sunday Times, the “most likely aftershocks” of a no-deal Brexit include the UK being hit with a three-month “meltdown” at its ports, a hard Irish border and shortages of food and medicine after it leaves leaves the bloc.Fuzzhead22 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 15, 2019 12:25 pmThe 'backstop' actually breaks the GFA anyhow, and the EU is overly keen on using it, so your post is piffleChneseexpat wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2019 8:44 pm
There is no way in hell parliament, the EU or congress will support the breaking of the Good Friday agreement. Only a complete nutter would want to do that.
Over to you, TGR.
A senior Whitehall source told the paper: “This is not Project Fear – this is the most realistic assessment of what the public face with no deal. These are likely, basic, reasonable scenarios – not the worst case.”
Yes. Thousands of experts are wrong. but certain Boris lovin tossers are right. I take of my cap to you. We've already spent Billions of pounds on things like non-existent ferries - but carry on, the sand is soft, and deep enough for your head.
Bojo's controllers are not allowing him to do radio & tv interviews. The more he appears. the more people see what a Charlatan he is, how ill-informed, ill prepared, a mere armature. His controllers are very scared that the Brexit con is collapsing.
Taking Back Control. Luv It.
Bojo's controllers are not allowing him to do radio & tv interviews. The more he appears. the more people see what a Charlatan he is, how ill-informed, ill prepared, a mere armature. His controllers are very scared that the Brexit con is collapsing.
Taking Back Control. Luv It.
TGM. Deliberate spelling mistake for you on my last post. But don't get too excited. Not getting any younger.
Paradoxically Boris may be remembered as the Prime Minister responsible for facilitating the reunification of Ireland!Chneseexpat wrote: ↑Sun Aug 18, 2019 4:17 pmAccording to leaked government documents on “Operation Yellowhammer”, published by the Sunday Times, the “most likely aftershocks” of a no-deal Brexit include the UK being hit with a three-month “meltdown” at its ports, a hard Irish border and shortages of food and medicine after it leaves leaves the bloc.Fuzzhead22 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 15, 2019 12:25 pmThe 'backstop' actually breaks the GFA anyhow, and the EU is overly keen on using it, so your post is piffleChneseexpat wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2019 8:44 pm
There is no way in hell parliament, the EU or congress will support the breaking of the Good Friday agreement. Only a complete nutter would want to do that.
Over to you, TGR.
A senior Whitehall source told the paper: “This is not Project Fear – this is the most realistic assessment of what the public face with no deal. These are likely, basic, reasonable scenarios – not the worst case.”
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AND splitting the Conservative party.
Be interesting how many Conservatives vote Lib Dem in the election.
Although, re Ireland, I fear the DUP, northern Ireland's largest party, and certain well-known Conservatives would rather see a violent confrontation than let that happen.
I wish I could work out where Johnson and the Conservative party want to take England. I'm split between the 1930's: on austerity and inequality, the 1500's: the century before the Union of the Crowns with Scotland, or the 1970's: with the UK bombings.
Be interesting how many Conservatives vote Lib Dem in the election.
Although, re Ireland, I fear the DUP, northern Ireland's largest party, and certain well-known Conservatives would rather see a violent confrontation than let that happen.
I wish I could work out where Johnson and the Conservative party want to take England. I'm split between the 1930's: on austerity and inequality, the 1500's: the century before the Union of the Crowns with Scotland, or the 1970's: with the UK bombings.
This. You've got to love TGR's alternative reality.EIKROY wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 5:34 amYes. Thousands of experts are wrong. but certain Boris lovin tossers are right. I take of my cap to you. We've already spent Billions of pounds on things like non-existent ferries - but carry on, the sand is soft, and deep enough for your head.
Bojo's controllers are not allowing him to do radio & tv interviews. The more he appears. the more people see what a Charlatan he is, how ill-informed, ill prepared, a mere armature. His controllers are very scared that the Brexit con is collapsing.
Taking Back Control. Luv It.
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I was not referring to your spelling but the placard spelling of the emoji. We all have finger problems with the keyboard at times but there is no excuse for an emoji.
As for the rest of the posts, pretty lame. I just do not understand why people take such delight in wanting a complete cluster fuck of Brexit when they could have easily accepted the initial vote (like I did) and get on with life. It is these Remain morons who are screwing up life at present.
As for expecting any sane or rational vote from Westminster.....dream on.
As usual, I ask the (for Remainsers) unanswerable question. If not Boris and Brexit, then who, what and how? Not some Westminster pipe dream but seriously, who what and how?
And for all of you Accord lovers (that includes me), remember it is Ireland and the EU that will insist on a hard border, not the UK.
"LEO Varadkar conceded that a no-deal Brexit would force Dublin to throw up a hard border in order to protect the European Union"
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I think the obvious solution is a three-option vote (IN, May's Deal, Out No Deal) with AVTheGrimReaper wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 3:10 pm
As usual, I ask the (for Remainsers) unanswerable question. If not Boris and Brexit, then who, what and how? Not some Westminster pipe dream but seriously, who what and how?
I think nearly everyone understands this point. It is also fair enough. We can't agree to terms yet still expect to be able to stroll into Europe?TheGrimReaper wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 3:10 pmAnd for all of you Accord lovers (that includes me), remember it is Ireland and the EU that will insist on a hard border, not the UK.
"LEO Varadkar conceded that a no-deal Brexit would force Dublin to throw up a hard border in order to protect the European Union"
There was no hard border in the Withdrawal Agreement.
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