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Here come the big guns. Not exactly 3 days before, but I'm sure they've got something else up their sleeves.
Last week, the former Labour MP Ian Austin called on the party’s traditional voters to back the Conservatives in order to prevent Jeremy Corbyn becoming prime minister.
This week, the Tories are seeking to maximise the damage to their rivals by paying for letters from Austin, in which he argues the same, to be sent out to thousands of voters in Labour marginals.
Voters from Ipswich, Stroud, Ashfield, Bedford and Cardiff North – all seats held by Corbyn’s party by fewer than 1,000 votes last time – have been posting copies of their letters from the ex-junior minister on social media. Speaking to the Press Association this evening, Austin has said:
I have made it absolutely clear that Jeremy Corbyn is not fit to lead the Labour party, never mind the country. I have written a letter to that effect.
He would not be drawn on how many voters had received the letter, or how the Tories had come to fund it being posted out. Austin told recipients that “no-one” believes Corbyn will deliver Brexit and that Labour’s plans for government would “put businesses, investment and jobs at risk”.
I know how hard it is for Labour voters to back the Tories, but at the end of this election, either Boris Johnson will be prime minister – or Jeremy Corbyn. That’s the choice. And I am worried that if Boris Johnson does not get a majority, the SNP will back Corbyn.
It is too big a risk. That is why I think we should lend the Tories our votes and stop Jeremy Corbyn getting anywhere near Downing Street.
The strapline at the bottom of the letter states: “Promoted by Alan Mabbutt on behalf of the Conservative and Unionist Party.”
Last week, the former Labour MP Ian Austin called on the party’s traditional voters to back the Conservatives in order to prevent Jeremy Corbyn becoming prime minister.
This week, the Tories are seeking to maximise the damage to their rivals by paying for letters from Austin, in which he argues the same, to be sent out to thousands of voters in Labour marginals.
Voters from Ipswich, Stroud, Ashfield, Bedford and Cardiff North – all seats held by Corbyn’s party by fewer than 1,000 votes last time – have been posting copies of their letters from the ex-junior minister on social media. Speaking to the Press Association this evening, Austin has said:
I have made it absolutely clear that Jeremy Corbyn is not fit to lead the Labour party, never mind the country. I have written a letter to that effect.
He would not be drawn on how many voters had received the letter, or how the Tories had come to fund it being posted out. Austin told recipients that “no-one” believes Corbyn will deliver Brexit and that Labour’s plans for government would “put businesses, investment and jobs at risk”.
I know how hard it is for Labour voters to back the Tories, but at the end of this election, either Boris Johnson will be prime minister – or Jeremy Corbyn. That’s the choice. And I am worried that if Boris Johnson does not get a majority, the SNP will back Corbyn.
It is too big a risk. That is why I think we should lend the Tories our votes and stop Jeremy Corbyn getting anywhere near Downing Street.
The strapline at the bottom of the letter states: “Promoted by Alan Mabbutt on behalf of the Conservative and Unionist Party.”
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A-ha! Now we know why the Johnson won't release that Russian interference report: It shows that Labour is being supported by the Russians!
Let's all give thanks to Boris and his Brexiters for trying to protect Corbyn.
Fuck me, the Telegraph is really letting itself down in this election. It won't be long till everyone is talking about it as being part of the tabloids.
Let's all give thanks to Boris and his Brexiters for trying to protect Corbyn.
Fuck me, the Telegraph is really letting itself down in this election. It won't be long till everyone is talking about it as being part of the tabloids.
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Cor blimey! Trump says he can work with Corbyn! That's a bit of an about turn, isn't it?
It was only last month he was saying Corbyn would be bad for the country. Although, I presumed he was talking about America.
Have the Conservatives and Trump had a sudden epiphany?
It was only last month he was saying Corbyn would be bad for the country. Although, I presumed he was talking about America.
Have the Conservatives and Trump had a sudden epiphany?
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When asked about Prince Andrew off his underpants, Trump said: "I do not know this person".
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NHS definitely off the table.
A right carve up.
A right carve up.
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A new report on the economic effects of the various party manifestos on Brexit has just been published.
“Getting Brexit done” on the terms of Boris Johnson’s general election manifesto will inflict a hit of up to £20 billion a year on government finances, rising as high as £28 billion if the UK crashes out of the EU without a trade deal agreement at the end of 2020, a new report has warned.
Far from bringing the Brexit process to a conclusion, the prime minister’s plan to leave the legal structures of the EU on 31 January will ensure that “Brexit uncertainty will continue”, with no-deal the default scenario unless Mr Johnson can meet his own “hugely demanding” timetable to conclude a future relationship agreement within 11 months, the report found.
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By contrast, analysis by the UK in a Changing Europe (UKCE) thinktank estimated that Labour’s softer proposed withdrawal deal would deliver a positive fiscal impact of £2-£12 billion, while the Liberal Democrat plan to halt Brexit altogether would provide a “Remain bonus” worth £12 billion a year to government coffers.
Despite Mr Johnson’s often-repeated assurances that “getting Brexit done” will bring an end to the three-year period of business uncertainty following the 2016 referendum, the think tank found that it was “easy to imagine” outcomes that will “lead to an increase not a reduction in economic uncertainty”.
“Getting Brexit done” on the terms of Boris Johnson’s general election manifesto will inflict a hit of up to £20 billion a year on government finances, rising as high as £28 billion if the UK crashes out of the EU without a trade deal agreement at the end of 2020, a new report has warned.
Far from bringing the Brexit process to a conclusion, the prime minister’s plan to leave the legal structures of the EU on 31 January will ensure that “Brexit uncertainty will continue”, with no-deal the default scenario unless Mr Johnson can meet his own “hugely demanding” timetable to conclude a future relationship agreement within 11 months, the report found.
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By contrast, analysis by the UK in a Changing Europe (UKCE) thinktank estimated that Labour’s softer proposed withdrawal deal would deliver a positive fiscal impact of £2-£12 billion, while the Liberal Democrat plan to halt Brexit altogether would provide a “Remain bonus” worth £12 billion a year to government coffers.
Despite Mr Johnson’s often-repeated assurances that “getting Brexit done” will bring an end to the three-year period of business uncertainty following the 2016 referendum, the think tank found that it was “easy to imagine” outcomes that will “lead to an increase not a reduction in economic uncertainty”.
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McDonell: "If there is a magic money tree, it is in the Cayman Islands. Labour will dig it up and bring it back to the UK".
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Well done miglet. Far better title.
As far as I can member the only worthwhile page was 28.
Didja see that negresses' nether regions?
As far as I can member the only worthwhile page was 28.
Didja see that negresses' nether regions?
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Trump rages at 'two-faced' Trudeau and leaves NATO summit early after film of Macron, Johnson, and Trudeau making fun of him.
In other news, the bookies are saying there has been a huge rush to place bets on a Corbyn election win. Outnumbering bets on Johnson by 3 to 1.
And,
Earlier today, a Tory candidate had to scramble over some bins and climb a fench to get away from angry Extinction Rebellion members who didn't like what he was saying. The only reason anyone knows about the incident is because he was spotted by a thirteen year old girl.
Labour has announced people will be up to £7000 a year better off under Labour except for the top 5%. Who will be a lot better off than that
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Talking about the nether regions, shouldn't you be back on the other thread?
Fascinating stuff.
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I can’t decide if kff hasn’t yet realised there is a new thread for grownups to talk about the same subject, of if he’s been banned from it.
If the former, it’s a remarkable psychological insight into the fella. Does he simply fire up 440, and post whatever he likes here, totally irrespective of other posts and threads?
Weird.
If the former, it’s a remarkable psychological insight into the fella. Does he simply fire up 440, and post whatever he likes here, totally irrespective of other posts and threads?
Weird.
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Yes, well it's obvious the site owner hasn't been taking any notice of what I've said / been posting. As if he had, he would know that 99.9% of all those in any position of power - media, business, religion, Russian secret service etc, would never in a million years give Johnson a real roasting for anything. Does he think billionaires, other than Soros, support socialism? But, It is good that the owner has noticed why Johnson isn't, as it should rightly be, a non entity by now.
Incidentally, I'm expecting the Tories to get a boost in the polls.
All through this campaign, they have been putting out literally thousands of tiny ads on social media trying to find out what works and what doesn't. Now, in the last few days of the campaign, with all the results collected and processed, we are all about to find out just how well micro targeting really works.
Incidentally, I'm expecting the Tories to get a boost in the polls.
All through this campaign, they have been putting out literally thousands of tiny ads on social media trying to find out what works and what doesn't. Now, in the last few days of the campaign, with all the results collected and processed, we are all about to find out just how well micro targeting really works.
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