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Map Collection from the early 1600s to 1891

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Post by Guac is Extra » Fri Apr 07, 2017 10:21 am

This is a collection of pre-1900s maps of SE Asia and Cambodia that I compiled for a project I worked on around 2009. I thought I had lost this collection until recently when I discovered it on some archival media. This was from an early backup before I had completely verified the sources and is labeled to the best of my knowledge with the notes included on the media. Any errors here will be my own and I will correct if cited. Thanks.




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Early 1600's - V.O.C. (Verenigde Oostindische Compagnie) - "United East Indian Company" - trading chart

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1625 - London - Insulae Indiae Orientalis

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1682 - Amsterdam - Tabula Geographica Hydrophylacium Asiae Majoris

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1703 - VOC Dutch Trading chart

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1718 - London - A New Map of the East Indies

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1721 - Senex, John - A New Map of India and China

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1790 - London - East Indies from the Best Authorities

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1791 - Bonne, Rigobert - Les Indes Orientales et leur Archipel

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1805 - Neele, S.- Map of the East Indies from the Best Authorities

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1847 - Hall, Sidney - VOC - The General Atlas for SE Asia

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1863 - SE Asia Mainland w. political lines highlighted

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1870 - Stieler, Adolf - Hand - Atlas.SE Asia

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1875 - Illustrated London News - March 6 1875 edition

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1891 - Siam Litho Map - printed coffee card
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Post by Just Robbed » Fri Apr 07, 2017 1:16 pm

Fantastic resource :thumbsup:
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Post by Jamie_Lambo » Fri Apr 07, 2017 4:37 pm

nice, interesting to see how they thought the lay of the land used to look like before satellite technology
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Post by Barang_doa_slae » Fri Apr 07, 2017 6:30 pm

Bought this original one in Paris a few years ago.
I choose it for its unacurate details of the Cambodian coastline.
It is from 1804.

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Post by LexusSchmexus » Fri Apr 07, 2017 6:47 pm

I wonder what Langor referred to. Whether it was an actual location or not.
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Post by Lucky Lucan » Fri Apr 07, 2017 6:59 pm

Great post.
Jamie_Lambo wrote:nice, interesting to see how they thought the lay of the land used to look like before satellite technology
They got a a lot better before satellites, but I agree. It looks like a whole lot of guesswork went into the early ones. I think it's partly because it was so difficult to travel and borders could be pretty fluid or barely existed in the modern sense.

This one from 1905 is a vast improvement on the 1875 one for example:

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Post by Lucky Lucan » Fri Apr 07, 2017 7:14 pm

LexusSchmexus wrote:I wonder what Langor referred to. Whether it was an actual location or not.
I noticed there weren't too many familiar names on the older maps. There are some weird ones, like "Striponob" on the 1847 map. It looks like the British surveyors decided to call someplace in the vicinty of Langor "The Mullet". Langor seems fairly consistent on a few maps though, maybe it's an old name for Koh Kong or Trat or somewhere around there?
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Post by Spigzy » Fri Apr 07, 2017 7:32 pm

Strange thing to me on all of them is the lack of the Tonle Sap lake - pretty hard to miss surely, but evidently not - great list though, thanks for sharing.
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Post by Lucky Lucan » Fri Apr 07, 2017 10:02 pm

This map from WWII is interesting.

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You can see the area claimed by the Thais cut an almost direct line between Angkor and Stung Treng, and not just the western provinces.
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Post by Guac is Extra » Fri Apr 07, 2017 10:54 pm

If I knew I still had these I would have put them here long before now. I had a very small part in a large project shared across several universities here in the states digitally archiving original maps from around the world pre 1900s when better survey work led to many of these maps seen here becoming obsolete and later rare. My part in all this was just organizing this area, SE Asia, for the database search and retrieval purposes, I'm not a map expert nor historian, just a keyboard wonk, but this was still one of the best projects I've worked on in the past 10 years now and is what caused me to become interested in the area and it's history. This is about half of the maps I had by the end of the project, which was around 30 maps in total for this area ranging from 1600s to 1900s.

Barang_doa_Slae's map from 1804 may be a good example of the "Best Authorities" used to make the 1805 map I posted as they're very similar, since "Best Authorities" generally means those maps were compiled from looking at other maps and combining details using current notes and not just a little guesswork. You can see some of this with how some maps have the coast lines wrong in the same way across different authors/sources and years. So it's interesting to me with how they got so much wrong, but still were able to get things mostly right as well.

Here's a DropBox link to the un-resized and uncompressed 1847 - Hall, Sidney - VOC - General Atlas for SE Asia.
The image is roughly 8.5mb in size but is at a 3150x3252 resolution. Good enough to get a large print made if one may be so inclined.
IMGUR and other hosts apparently resize it on upload in the .jpeg format so it's in a rar file.



Also this may be of interest:
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Source: A Gazetteer of the World: Or, Dictionary of Geographical Knowledge - Volume 5
Also: The Gazetteer of the World - Page 444
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Post by Lucky Lucan » Sat Apr 08, 2017 12:34 am

Great stuff:

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That has to be the most confusing description of a place I've ever heard. This thread has piqued my interest in old maps though. I noticed the only ones I had were pretty low-res, so I found a few more, I'll try and post a few.
This one was labeled 1619 Mercator map of “India Orientalis”, Amsterdam:

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As you can see, it has Langor and Corel clearly marked on it, as do many of the other maps. I'd be really interested to find out what these places were.
This 1632 map has both marked too:

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No series of maps of the region would look complete if one didn't include Johnson's Map of Hindoostan from 1864:

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For Cambodia I don't believe it's accurate (or any political map really is). It probably reflects British ambitions in the region more than any reality in 1864.
It might have been accurate in the 1840s though, so perhaps that's what they are illustrating while concentrating more on actually viable parts of the empire.
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Post by Tomppa » Sat Apr 08, 2017 1:45 am

Lucky Lucan wrote:This map from WWII is interesting.

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You can see the area claimed by the Thais cut an almost direct line between Angkor and Stung Treng, and not just the western provinces.
Excellent maps from history, I like this kind of info!

This second ww map is intresting. It's been make Japanise invasion time? Little known part of history is that french and thai start war themself (Franco-Thai war in english I guess?). Thai troops proceed areas in Battambang and north of Siem Reap all way to Mekhong. Weird thing is that Japanese troops take control Cambodia and stop atac. Anyway Japanise make new borderline like it was in 1905 with some extra areas for Thais. Usually known battle this war is French battle against Thai Navy in Koh Chang, less known is that same time they lose areas inside Cambodia.
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Post by jm » Sat Apr 08, 2017 1:59 am

Missing is the 1821 Crawfurd map which first identifies Phu Quoc as such (and not Koh Tral)Image

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Post by jm » Sat Apr 08, 2017 2:03 am

jm wrote:Missing is the 1821 Crawfurd map which first identifies Phu Quoc as such (and not Koh Tral)Image

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